Bushwalk Australia

many people wake up in the morning with no idea how they cope with the work stress and yet you just get up go to work and manage to do it somehow?

Can't do it forever though...

Well doing some quick calculatioms yesterday I should have decent super in 30 years time. That is assuming that amount of money isnt worth peanuts in the future and I somehow have saved a home deposit and paid it off by then..and kept a decnt paying job despite not knowing what im doing or enjoying the place I work at

perfectlydark wrote:Well doing some quick calculatioms yesterday I should have decent super in 30 years time. That is assuming that amount of money isnt worth peanuts in the future and I somehow have saved a home deposit and paid it off by then..and kept a decnt paying job despite not knowing what im doing or enjoying the place I work at

+1

I often feel like that in the morning, then I have a coffee and everything is fine again.

In seriousness though I'd say that I'm enjoying my chosen profession - at least when I'm not experiencing the feelings of inadequacy that I'm not as good as all the others.

Im feeling that in my new job icefest and never have before. Terrible feeling but then I consider "what the hell are we even doing here other than make pretty presentations and go to meetings talking about 'strategy' and all this rubbish and think meh. Rather be hands on

i have to sit and watch things turn to custard that are beyond my control that i have to sort out, and i cant pursuade other people to change things to stop things turning to custard...

wayno wrote:i have to sit and watch things turn to custard that are beyond my control that i have to sort out, and i cant persuade other people to change things to stop things turning to custard...

That almost reads like the serenity prayer.

Crap. I hope it's not the custard that kills people.

no its not that bad, its only a certain part of my job, not the entire job...

perfectlydark wrote:Im feeling that in my new job icefest and never have before. Terrible feeling but then I consider "what the hell are we even doing here other than make pretty presentations and go to meetings talking about 'strategy' and all this rubbish and think meh. Rather be hands on

Have you considered doing some volunteer work to be a bit more active?

Yes its not a bad idea. Still would love to get out of the corporate world though but gets harder the older you get. Everyone seems to baulk if you dare "move backwards" career wise

A sick day is a good option to deal with workplace fatigue

Corporate job pays the bills. It indeed leaves one without too many options when there's a family and mortgage/retirement to consider. Not uncommon at all. Some sideline jobs or living it up recreationally are common balancing strategies. Be happy is the motto!

perfectlydark wrote:Yes its not a bad idea. Still would love to get out of the corporate world though but gets harder the older you get. Everyone seems to baulk if you dare "move backwards" career wise

Moving up and down the payscales has served me well over the years. Go where the job enjoyment is, rather than the bucks. Most people respect you for it. Live a fairly simple life and stack away heaps of super whenever you can. That way, you can retire earlier (as I intend to in a few months)

tastrax wrote:

perfectlydark wrote:Yes its not a bad idea. Still would love to get out of the corporate world though but gets harder the older you get. Everyone seems to baulk if you dare "move backwards" career wise

Moving up and down the payscales has served me well over the years. Go where the job enjoyment is, rather than the bucks. Most people respect you for it. Live a fairly simple life and stack away heaps of super whenever you can. That way, you can retire earlier (as I intend to in a few months)

Early retirement if you can afford it is a wonderful thing so many hours in the day to do what YOU want including mid week walks to less crowded destinations which at times can be nice
corvus

Work for yourself.
Different kind of stress,totally. If you know your trade/skill/profession and can solve problems, relate to people in a calm way - you are gold - you just have to realize it (have confidence).
A little bit like off track walking .
I have been doing it for 18 years, I was *&%$#! scared and not at all confident that it would work out - but - I knew I knew what I knew.
Time is what I got out of it, our mudbrick, timber and stone house is paid off, our kids are 11&14 and we have time.
Take the leap - if you wake up in the morning feeling like poo, something has to change.

yeah thats what i'm thinking, i used to contract but the work dried up. i liked the regular pay check of regular work, but i'm feeling like i'm shackled in a bad situation for the sake of regular money that i dont need as much as i used to... if push comes to shove hey i can sell my wardrobe full of gear....

wayno wrote:yeah thats what i'm thinking, i used to contract but the work dried up. i liked the regular pay check of regular work, but i'm feeling like i'm shackled in a bad situation for the sake of regular money that i dont need as much as i used to... if push comes to shove hey i can sell my wardrobe full of gear....

from reading the equipment forum you probably have enough to sell to retire yesterday

Well if gps's apocalypse happens at least we wont have to.worry about "work" anymore, just what really matters

wayno wrote:i have to sit and watch things turn to custard that are beyond my control that i have to sort out, and i cant pursuade other people to change things to stop things turning to custard...

That's why I'm quitting and moving back down to Tassie. It might be possible to force through certain changes to the systems, but it's impossible to force people to think, and most of those with whom I work just refuse to use the few viable brain cells they have.

north-north-west wrote:That's why I'm quitting and moving back down to Tassie. It might be possible to force through certain changes to the systems, but it's impossible to force people to think, and most of those with whom I work just refuse to use the few viable brain cells they have.

Sounds like you could be in IT.

The story you tell is one I hear bouncing around in our IT area a fair bit. I have the similar troubles (systems architect) at times too.

I'd love to scale back and do a simpler job with less frustrations... I wonder if it's the company rather than me though, it's grown a lot in the last few years and the environment and people have changed as a result (I'd say not for the better).

I proposed an out of the box software option that will cheaply do what is required. Instead get turned down so the project can waffle on for months hiring consultants at great cost so lots of pretty powerpoint slideshows can be made and shown off

yeah people just miss the smaller les complicated solutions, going big is the way of large organisations.... beats me why so many people still have to commute to an office when they could work from home most of the time, companies dont trust their workers enough>?

perfectlydark wrote:I proposed an out of the box software option that will cheaply do what is required. Instead get turned down so the project can waffle on for months hiring consultants at great cost so lots of pretty powerpoint slideshows can be made and shown off

Design by committee never ends well

Amen to that wayno and bubba

Is today unusually stupid? 2 options presented. One is half the price and does exactly whats needed at industry best practice. Optiom 2...call back interviews for customers..costs a fortune, lags and doesnt do anything we dont already do.
guess which one the big wigs are interested in...

the more complicated it looks then often people think the better it has to be, or people believe the more they pay the more they get....

Thats all I can rationalise mate. Thinking its time to move on but cant till mrs gets a job (im on decent money but we need every penny at the moment)

some people just dont understand how less can be more and more can be less.. more just has to be better... if you were to ask your big wigs to pick gear to go hiking with , i think it would be an interesting task, you can imagine the weight of their gear and it wouldnt be at the ultralight end of the spectrum... why do people drive around in big four wheel drives that never leave sealed roads? why does everyone go ooh and ahh when someone buys a bigger house or boat... why do people buy industrial sized barbques they seldom use? why do people take holidays trying to visit as many countries in the quickest possible time imaginable and cover the biggest distances possible?
juset seems to be part of some peoples makeup

Very true.