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Re: Calculating the economic logic of Covid 19 social distan

PostPosted: Tue 28 Apr, 2020 2:06 pm
by Moondog55
[quote="PedroArvy"]S
I have heard the economic value of a person is between 1.5-4 million. That’s the amount of economic value people create. Let's take an average of 2.75 million. Now make it 1/4 of that as people who die for CV have lived for ¾ of their lives.
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That may be true if and only if it is spread over the average working life of the "average" person.
Also most people don't work anywhere near as long as they used to because of the extended education and training needed to get a job in what is rapidly becoming a highly technological society.
So the costs of maintaining that person tor the 27 years between birth and first real job need to be accounted for first and I think that is where that figure $1.5M- comes from.
So there are 40 to 50 years of productive working life for the "average' person who works until they are unable to work any longer.
Although $4M- spread over a 50 year working life is only about $1800- a week
If they haven't saved enough money for a meaningful retirement then they become an secondary economic "burden" for however long it takes them to die.
Of course I am ignoring the social and economic benefits of grandparents [ which is huge but never calculated by governments] and only thinking of those people who are unfortunate enough to spend extended time in complete care, which hopefully is no longer than 3 months but can be in a worst case scenario as long as 20 years.
I can hypothesise many scenarios where it makes "economic" sense to simply allow old people to die off without treatment, just as I can think about scenarios where those same people are treasured and an allowance for their past benefit to society can be easily made.
I think I know where the current governments thinking lies. For myself I guess I vacillate between extremes constantly

Re: Calculating the economic logic of Covid 19 social distan

PostPosted: Mon 04 May, 2020 6:37 pm
by Gadgetgeek
Quarantine as a part of travel was a very common thing for a long time. Its why many of the large companies in Europe had offices that often worked on both sides of a conflict. As we learn more, we may find that there are mitigations that work better, and we can achieve an acceptable rate of risk. The fact is that we could also do the same with the flu, with hyper-localized travel restrictions, or the like.
Companies would have to decide just how badly they want someone to get to a meeting, and people would need to take a few clear days before going on vacation. The fact is that a lot of people intentionally go out when they are contagious because its something that most of western society doesn't see as a concern. In this case the individual wins out over the group.

As for where people might stay, well, I'm sure in a couple months some very nice floating hotels could be had for cheap. To be honest those would serve the Australian disaster response quite well.

Re: Calculating the economic logic of Covid 19 social distan

PostPosted: Thu 07 May, 2020 9:13 am
by Neo
Half way down this article is an initial cost, all estimates though. Not much of the 'stimulus' was flowing out by mid April.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -their-job