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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby ollster » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 11:20 am

ILUVSWTAS wrote:WT *$&# is s*&^%$#a Corvus?


It's a TLA.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby walkinTas » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 11:27 am

Isn't it funny that a TLA can be called a FLW?
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby walkinTas » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 11:41 am

ollster wrote:
walkinTas wrote: this is just too depression.


I am disappoint.


So am I ! ;)
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby tasadam » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 11:48 am

Nuts wrote:... zzzz..zzzz..zzz.zz.....z....

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Re: language mod [split]

Postby north-north-west » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 9:28 pm

Macca81 wrote:It is the context and intent, not the words, that people with the ability to gather intelligent thoughts should be offended by...


Yep.
There is no word anywhere near as offensive as the act of censorship.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby Nuts » Fri 28 Jan, 2011 9:38 pm

:? but thats 4 words...
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Re: language mod [split]

Postby walkinTas » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 2:45 pm

north-north-west wrote:
Macca81 wrote:It is the context and intent, not the words, that people with the ability to gather intelligent thoughts should be offended by...


Yep.
There is no word anywhere near as offensive as the act of censorship.
This one is also a very interesting topic. I recognise the inherent problems with censorship (who censors and why), but I realise that there is a large amount of censorship in every aspect of our daily lives. I also know that this forum (no forum) would survive more than a couple of weeks without moderation and management. It easy to say we shouldn't censors, and I'd tend to lean this way, but it seem Utopian to believe we can have a censorship free society (the whole what is a society question).

I guess if we can't be censorship free then maybe the next best is to be very open and very clear about what is censored and why. i.e, talking about these things openly and coming to an understanding.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby Nuts » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 3:13 pm

Its always going to be a scrub bash :) (does that exclude Larry and his wheelchair :) )

I do follow a forum with almost no censorship, you hear some pretty rough comments, personal attacks and slander. About the only time anything is censored is if a link to someone 'in the real world' is posted online (personal details). While it isnt 'PG' it does still seem to work ok (and has done for many years). Seems those that contribute largely get more involved it telling people to pull their heads in(than they do here) rather than rushing off to a moderator. Many comments that dont get a response or are out of order are (often and) easily enough ignored.

I (usually) find it as amusing to hear people making judgements about others they have never even met.. the potential for mis-interpretation has been lost in their conclusions. The 'foe' list must surely be more a reflection on those using it as those listed on it...

It seems censorship is neither here nor there; I think most people would prefer things the way they are here but the more rules the more work you guys will have.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby ollster » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 4:00 pm

4chan /b/ is a pretty good example of virtually zero censorship or rules. Oh course, it is pretty crook.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby walkinTas » Sat 29 Jan, 2011 7:58 pm

by "no" censorship I was thinking of the rules that ban spammers and the like. Uncensored, this sort of traffic would overwhelm the forum.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby north-north-west » Mon 31 Jan, 2011 8:03 pm

While this subject is still open, there is one point I want to get off my chest:

Why is the good old Aussie '*&%$#!' banned, when that crass Americanism '*&%$#!' - which means exactly the same thing, and has exactly the same degree of vulgarity and is, in fact, the same word except for a minor difference in pronunciation which has led to a different spelling - is OK. Filter both or neither, please.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby Son of a Beach » Tue 01 Feb, 2011 8:35 am

Not sure what you're referring to, NNW - both are shown with replacements here when I view your post with word censoring turned on.

There may have been a time when the donkey version was not censored because it is also the legitimate name of an animal, and does (very rarely) get used for that.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby north-north-west » Tue 01 Feb, 2011 6:18 pm

OOOOps.
It's obviously been changed since I first noticed it.
Which was a long, loooong time ago.
Sorry.

But why do so many people use it, instead of the traditional form? And why does almost everyone - including those old enough to know better - insist on calling concrete 'cement'?
Why are we all 'guys' instead of 'blokes'?

not the forum's fault, but this creeping Americanisation really gets up my nose.

And now I've had my rant, you can all relax and continue to ignore me. Thank you.



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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby johnw » Tue 01 Feb, 2011 6:38 pm

north-north-west wrote:But why do so many people use it, instead of the traditional form? And why does almost everyone - including those old enough to know better - insist on calling concrete 'cement'?
Why are we all 'guys' instead of 'blokes'?

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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby Macca81 » Tue 01 Feb, 2011 9:56 pm

north-north-west wrote:but this creeping Americanisation really gets up my nose.

i know what you mean, its a pet hate of mine... one of my biggest infact. American spelling is on even ground with it...
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby tasadam » Wed 02 Feb, 2011 8:49 am

north-north-west wrote:Why are we all 'guys' instead of 'blokes'?

This is an interesting one.
If I was to say, "hey guys", I'd be talking to everyone. If I was to say "hey blokes", I'd only be talking to men.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby corvus » Wed 02 Feb, 2011 6:50 pm

With all of this will we lose the classic Australian sayings that I was introduced to 43 years ago as a 21 year old incomer Scot ?
Where will the flash rat with a gold tooth live and where will the drainpipe rat go ? what about Up or Crack or Antsy so many sayings that will be lost as my mates pass on .such descriptive Australian language lost to TV speak :(
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 02 Feb, 2011 7:15 pm

corvus wrote:With all of this will we lose the classic Australian sayings that I was introduced to 43 years ago as a 21 year old incomer Scot ?
Where will the flash rat with a gold tooth live and where will the drainpipe rat go ? what about Up or Crack or Antsy so many sayings that will be lost as my mates pass on .such descriptive Australian language lost to TV speak :(
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby doogs » Wed 02 Feb, 2011 7:31 pm

I learnt all my Australian slang I needed before I came to Australia:
"Throw another shrimp on the barbie", "Tie me kangaroo down sport", "Flamin' mongrel", "G'day mate"........the list goes on. These have helped me break the ice with many a local at the pub.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 02 Feb, 2011 7:49 pm

doogs wrote:I learnt all my Australian slang I needed before I came to Australia:
"Throw another shrimp on the barbie", "Tie me kangaroo down sport", "Flamin' mongrel", "G'day mate"........the list goes on. These have helped me break the ice with many a local at the pub.



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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby north-north-west » Thu 03 Feb, 2011 5:39 pm

doogs wrote:I learnt all my Australian slang I needed before I came to Australia:
"Throw another shrimp on the barbie" . . .

Except that they're prawns, and that phrase was Americanised for the overseas ads.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby Lizzy » Sat 05 Feb, 2011 6:17 am

north-north-west wrote:
doogs wrote:I learnt all my Australian slang I needed before I came to Australia:
"Throw another shrimp on the barbie" . . .

Except that they're prawns, and that phrase was Americanised for the overseas ads.

& the Americans probably wonder why we toss prawns onto a barbie doll..... :?
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby vagrom » Wed 02 Mar, 2011 12:24 am

So lucky .... don't sell camping gear...

moderation: please don't type words in a way designed to avoid the swear filter.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby ollster » Wed 02 Mar, 2011 7:39 am

For me, "Orsie" slang = cultural cringe. I can't stand most of the archaic, stale and ridiculous old expressions. They make us look like kangaroo humping bumpkins.

I do like "no worries" though, and that *&%$#! is term of endearment.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby corvus » Wed 02 Mar, 2011 10:01 am

ollster wrote:For me, "Orsie" slang = cultural cringe. I can't stand most of the archaic, stale and ridiculous old expressions. They make us look like kangaroo humping bumpkins.

I do like "no worries" though, and that *&%$#! is term of endearment.


I thought an "Orsie" was what a two year old called a gee-gee :lol:
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby Liamy77 » Wed 02 Mar, 2011 10:50 am

ILUVSWTAS wrote:
Bewdy mate, thats Bonza!


well now if we are going to ignore the dynamic changing nature of spoken language then i must poiunt out that "bonza" is actually French!!! that's right .... FRENCH! - "bon ca" or "that's good" - it was brought back by diggers who served there in the world war........
much as i hate us turning into "little America" it is one of those things.... we will warp the americanism out of it eventually.... then they can "kiss our donkeys!" :lol:
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby walkinTas » Wed 02 Mar, 2011 11:27 am

That's one story on the derivation. You can read here for another. I think you'll find bonza & bonser have been around a bit longer than WW1.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby Liamy77 » Wed 02 Mar, 2011 2:53 pm

Nice little reference to find 8) IF it isn't a separate term (but the article does state that it may be separate)it may have revived/reinforced the useage perhaps?.... but it is still seemingly an Anglo-Franco blend... point is that this is how separate languages evolve... little by little... :)
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby vagrom » Wed 02 Mar, 2011 7:10 pm

vagrom wrote:So lucky .... don't sell camping gear...

moderation: please don't type words in a way designed to avoid the swear filter.


Woops..sorry. I meant, it's lucky French Connection(UK) don't sell camping gear. Fashion apparel co.
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Re: Discussing swearing and moderation [split] (language)

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 02 Mar, 2011 7:13 pm

vagrom wrote:
vagrom wrote:So lucky .... don't sell camping gear...

moderation: please don't type words in a way designed to avoid the swear filter.


Woops..sorry. I meant, it's lucky French Connection(UK) don't sell camping gear. Fashion apparel co.



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