Hilleberg nallo info needed

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Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby sherpa » Fri 16 Nov, 2012 8:16 pm

Greetings all,
Considering options for a new light weigh tent. My MSR Fusion 3 seems to be getting heavier with age.
The Nallo is on my short list.
I have hiked with both the Wilderness Equipment 1st and 2nd arrow tents. While I found them great tents,
I didnt find their tapered design very welcoming.
Question: Does anyone know if the Nallo tapers down at a similar angle as a First arrow?
If it does, I may have to take it off my short list.
Thanks!
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby DonQx » Sun 18 Nov, 2012 5:04 am

do an image search with whatever search engine takes your fancy.

you'll find quite a few for both tent models, I just did.

looks to me like the Nallo tapers at the same angle, maybe even a tad more

happy tent hunting

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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby Ent » Sun 18 Nov, 2012 12:01 pm

Hi

The Nallo is a bigger tent than the Wilderness Equipment for the stated number of people. The Nallo two does drop a fair bit on the rear end. Not a problem for people under 6' but for taller people it can be a bit of a nuisance. The Wilderness Equipment is considerably smaller and depending on the latest version noticeably heavier. I went for the Hilleberg and very happy with my choice but still would prefer a higher rear end.

As for MSR I found that by Nook is more fragile proposition but a great three season tent when treated with care its lighter weight construction demands.

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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby sherpa » Sun 18 Nov, 2012 1:34 pm

Thanks to both of you for the info & suggestions.
Yes, I have tried to compare pics of both tents online. But comparing pictures is not an exact science, as
the angle the picture was taken can greatly exagerate or reduce said slope.
I think it is also time to upgrade my commadore 64.
Just thought somebody might have had experience with both.
But yes, I imagine they are roughly the same.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby Franco » Sun 18 Nov, 2012 6:11 pm

These are the diagrams comparing sizes of the WE First Arrow and the Nallo:

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As you can see the First Arrow starts at 120 cm and ends at 70 at the rear pole.
Those look to me like the fly dimensions so 5-10cm less for the inner.
The Nallo starts at 100cm (for the inner) but could not find the height of the rear pole, however it looks around 80cm or a bit less.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby stuey69 » Sun 18 Nov, 2012 7:08 pm

Franco wrote:The Nallo starts at 100cm (for the inner) but could not find the height of the rear pole, however it looks around 80cm or a bit less.


100cm to 80cm is about right, it's not too much of a taper really.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby ninjapuppet » Mon 19 Nov, 2012 1:17 am

your MSR fusion is apparently 11.4lb (5.2kg) according to moontrail.

Not sure if you've looked at the Nammatj, but here are my weights for the nammatj 3 man incase you're interested. very similar to the nallo, except heavier and both poles are the same height.
pole 1 - 234g
pole 2 - 234g
outer - 1273g
Inner - 1042g

Then you can add stuff sacks and pegs and repair kits on top of that. Still much lighter than your current bombshelter
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby DonQx » Mon 19 Nov, 2012 4:38 am

Looks like you're comparing the Nallo 2 (2 person tent) with the 1st Arrow (3 person tent). Why not the Nallo 3?

What is it about the tapering that you don't like?

I've had both the Nallo 3 and the 1st Arrow.

N3 as my go-to lightweight yet spacious solo walking tent for about 5 years (I like meditating in my tent, thus need the headroom). Have replaced it with the Helsport Ringstind 1 ... a fair bit less weight but also less space & headroom ... weight became more important ... must be getting old ;-)

1A briefly for motorcycle touring ... great tent, top quality, well thought out design, etc. ... but the vestibule didn't quite work for me with bike gear.

While I haven't compared the 2 side by side, my impression in hindsight is that the 1A was a bit more useable at the footend than the N3. And it had the better venting there.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby PiniPowPow » Mon 19 Nov, 2012 4:27 pm

Not sure if it will be of any help, but I posted some photos of both tents awhile back. viewtopic.php?f=15&t=10403

For me, the Nallo was the pick of the tents that I fondled with last winter.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby sherpa » Mon 19 Nov, 2012 9:40 pm

Thanks again for all replies.
Just to clarify, my intention in this post was to only compare the two tents buy their rate of taper.
Not by pro's and con's.
I guess I have always liked the feeling the space of a dome structure provides. I like crawling in and having
the space 'open up'. Rather than decrease.
The thing with Hilleberg is that you carn't just walk into your local outdoor shop and 'try one on'.
I'd hate to order one and find that I'm not still not too keen on the feel of a tapered tent.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby Tortoise » Mon 19 Nov, 2012 9:57 pm

sherpa wrote:The thing with Hilleberg is that you carn't just walk into your local outdoor shop and 'try one on'.
I'd hate to order one and find that I'm not still not too keen on the feel of a tapered tent.
Cheers.

G'day Sherpa

I bought a Hilleberg Akto via this forum. It was in the south, i'm in the north, and I've checked out enough one person tents to know i needed to physically get inside one before i could consider buying it. A couple of pms later, I got to check one out in the next town - and gained a bushwalking buddy in the process! Seems there are a few Hillebergs around Tassie - hopefully the right one will surface. All the best in your search for the right tent for you.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby Mountain Rocket » Mon 19 Nov, 2012 11:07 pm

If you want to see a Nallo 2 in the flesh sherpa and are in or around Hobart, feel free to message me and we could try and work something out.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby tasadam » Tue 20 Nov, 2012 12:58 pm

Robert H wrote:If you want to see a Nallo 2 in the flesh sherpa and are in or around Hobart, feel free to message me and we could try and work something out.

I was going to say the same for the Devonport area, I have Nallo2 and Nallo3 that you can see. PM me if interested.
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Re: Hilleberg nallo info needed

Postby Mountain Rocket » Tue 27 Nov, 2012 2:55 pm

Let us know what you end up ordering mate.
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