Scarp1 - big enough for two?

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Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby Singe » Wed 25 Aug, 2010 5:09 pm

Title pretty much says it all ;) Thinking about a new tent to get the weight down and wondering what "1+" means in the real world?
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Wed 25 Aug, 2010 5:26 pm

1+? Hmmmmm Im guessing you'd have to be close to the sharing person. Especially given some 2man tents i've been in.
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby optdyl » Wed 25 Aug, 2010 5:50 pm

I think the 1+ means that if you take out the internal walls it will "fit" two.
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby corvus » Wed 25 Aug, 2010 6:51 pm

My Scarp 1 is very nice and roomy for ONE and would fit two in an emergency however it is a one person tent check out the dimensions here.
http://www.tarptent.com/scarp1_2.html
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby Franco » Wed 25 Aug, 2010 6:57 pm

Official version...
In TT speak 1+ means that it is a solo shelter that can accommodate 2 in an emergency or a close couple...
With the Scarp if you undo the outermost clip on each side of the top, the floor drops to about a 5 cm height (from about 13cm) so that you can fit two mats inside.
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby Singe » Fri 27 Aug, 2010 4:52 pm

Thanks for the replies :)

I might measure up the existing tent and compare; doesn't matter too much if it's a bit of a squeeze - if two mats fit then should be fine. The alternative is that we could stick with our current tent for two-person walks - though I'd probably go for a Moment in that case. Decision, decisions!
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby Singe » Tue 30 Aug, 2011 12:40 pm

Well, a year on I've finally ordered, received and seam-sealed my Scarp1 - premier voyage will be some cycle touring in France next month 8)

I don't think space will be a problem for us, the second vestibule will certainly help.

I've got pitching more or less figured out, but am a bit confused about the anchor points on the bottom of the floor - are they meant to be attached to anything?
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby Franco » Tue 30 Aug, 2011 2:17 pm

but am a bit confused about the anchor points on the bottom of the floor - are they meant to be attached to anything?


Henry loves to put added loops and bits and then not tell anyone what they are for.
Those anchor points were not in the original version and neither were in the first few batches of the new fly version, so they are not covered in the instructions.

A couple of uses for them.
One you can pull the floor back to that point and insert a peg there to give you temporary extra vestibule area ( for that activity that should ever be mentioned, cooking inside the tent...)
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The other is to set the inner up by itself using the standard pole.
The tensioning strap (from pole tip to pole tip) is attached to the fly , so you need to make one up to replace that .
I used a pair of glove hooks to take the pole tip.
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But if you just want some extra view you can also do this :

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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby stepbystep » Tue 30 Aug, 2011 2:26 pm

I presumed they were used to peg the floor down to stop a bit of drifting from the silnylon floor when on slopes, I've done this once in an tentsite that had a bit of sideways drift and it helped.
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby Franco » Wed 31 Aug, 2011 8:50 am

I presumed they were used to peg the floor down to stop a bit of drifting from the silnylon floor when on slopes

Yes you can do that as well and possibly that was the main reason for putting those loops there.
I did ask Henry when a member here asked about them some time ago but now I forget his explanation...
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby Singe » Sat 03 Sep, 2011 6:22 am

Thanks Franco and SBS, I'm loving how versaile this shelter is - and I haven even slept in it yet :lol:

Don't think I'll be cooking in the vestibule, at least not with my leaky attempts at soft drink can stoves - but might have to pick up a mesh inner when I order my next TT. The half-fly configuration looks good for stargazing...
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Re: Scarp1 - big enough for two?

Postby corvus » Sun 04 Sep, 2011 7:17 pm

For the very little extra weight Scarp 2 is Palatial for one and roomy for two and you could squeeze in three Adults if pushed or Mum ,Dad and a littlie with ease.
I guess my Scarp 1 will become redundant now :D
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