Thu 23 Jul, 2020 5:58 pm
Moondog55 wrote:While the Dumper is an OK down jumper the real value at OP at the moment is their Inversion down parka, I would have bought one, unfortunately they are too damned small.
https://www.oneplanet.com.au/product/cl ... inversion/
At 610 grams for a medium it qualifies as UL when the warmth factor is counted, and there is nothing wrong with a bit of insuarance in your static layer
Thu 23 Jul, 2020 7:24 pm
north-north-west wrote:What on earth is going on with the multiple copies of posts?
Thu 23 Jul, 2020 7:34 pm
woyapp1 wrote:Thanks for that. Helpful suggestions. I don't care too much about the soap tbh, especially as I don't sweat much at all. But my tent-mate may not want to be my friend at the end of the hike without it!
Sounds like I can definitely reduce the food. I'll look into that more.
Thu 23 Jul, 2020 7:41 pm
woyapp1 wrote:I've made some changes based on the advice I've received already, so my list may not accurately reflect some of the comments.Moondog55 wrote:While the Dumper is an OK down jumper the real value at OP at the moment is their Inversion down parka, I would have bought one, unfortunately they are too damned small.
https://www.oneplanet.com.au/product/cl ... inversion/
At 610 grams for a medium it qualifies as UL when the warmth factor is counted, and there is nothing wrong with a bit of insuarance in your static layer
Looks amazing, but potentially overkill for me I think at that weight.
Thu 23 Jul, 2020 10:24 pm
Fri 24 Jul, 2020 7:45 am
Fri 24 Jul, 2020 10:51 pm
Sat 25 Jul, 2020 9:08 am
Al M wrote:In addition to what has been already suggested consider further load reduction with no -
Balance pockets
Sat 25 Jul, 2020 9:47 pm
north-north-west wrote:Al M wrote:In addition to what has been already suggested consider further load reduction with no -
Balance pockets
The Balance Pockets are what make the pack system work.
Sun 26 Jul, 2020 9:50 am
Sun 26 Jul, 2020 10:06 am
north-north-west wrote:Learn a bit about the system before telling someone to change it. The difference of walking with the pockets to balance out the main pack more than compensates for the slight extra weight. It's easier and far less stressful on the body than carrying a lighter weight in a standard pack.
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 12:22 am
north-north-west wrote:Learn a bit about the system before telling someone to change it. The difference of walking with the pockets to balance out the main pack more than compensates for the slight extra weight. It's easier and far less stressful on the body than carrying a lighter weight in a standard pack.
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 6:49 am
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 7:41 am
Al M wrote:north-north-west wrote:Learn a bit about the system before telling someone to change it. The difference of walking with the pockets to balance out the main pack more than compensates for the slight extra weight. It's easier and far less stressful on the body than carrying a lighter weight in a standard pack.
Perhaps a great optional extra, but not a lot of hikers are using that system. One still needs to try it and see if it suits the style of walking and terrain. Compared to say a common 1.2kg pack like an Osprey Exos the 0.8kg weight difference is not insignificant and can go towards reducing the base weight significantly among other items.
I used the Aust Army webbing system in the 1981 reserve army similar to the British P37 and the only thing going for it was to be indestructible and for combat. It was mostly designed to put stuff in the front for quick access and gun reload but not for comfort and distributing load onto the hips, it was all on the shoulders. Very little of that era army gear was ergonomic or light weight.
Al M wrote:In addition to what has been already suggested consider further load reduction with no -
Balance pockets
Lighter Matt option, 3/4 length and place spare cloths under feet instead
Water proof dish gloves
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 7:57 am
Watertank wrote:You don’t need the chair, there are plenty of logs, rocks and platforms at the camping places to sit on, if you would like some comfort these are great https://www.snowys.com.au/extra-warm-z-seat - they are light, pretty indestructible and useful for kneeling on getting in and out of your tent. To me your food looks too little, but it depends on your needs, I would do a test run measuring it out at home well in advance. I suggest you take, at least as back up, a couple of dehydrated hiking meals and perhaps a couple of cliff bars. The main danger in packing is adding extras at the last minute... is the power cell your extra storage battery? It seems very light, will it be sufficient for your needs? I also agree with ditching the thermos.
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 11:07 am
Al M wrote:north-north-west wrote:Learn a bit about the system before telling someone to change it. The difference of walking with the pockets to balance out the main pack more than compensates for the slight extra weight. It's easier and far less stressful on the body than carrying a lighter weight in a standard pack.
Perhaps a great optional extra, but not a lot of hikers are using that system. One still needs to try it and see if it suits the style of walking and terrain. Compared to say a common 1.2kg pack like an Osprey Exos the 0.8kg weight difference is not insignificant and can go towards reducing the base weight significantly among other items.
I used the Aust Army webbing system in the 1981 reserve army similar to the British P37 and the only thing going for it was to be indestructible and for combat. It was mostly designed to put stuff in the front for quick access and gun reload but not for comfort and distributing load onto the hips, it was all on the shoulders. Very little of that era army gear was ergonomic or light weight.
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 1:43 pm
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 2:49 pm
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 3:45 pm
JohnnoMcJohnno wrote:Re the OLT, the fact that the huts may not be open certainly makes the planning more interesting. That list is pretty close to what I would take although like others I wouldn't take the chair. I see you have reduced the food. I'm on the large size and took 5 kg of food when I went - and ended up with almost a kilo left over. I know its good to have something spare though in case of delays like a couple of packs of instant noodles or a block of chocolate for emergencies. A couple of minor points - I used up all my 50g of hand sanitiser really quickly - I received so many hygiene warnings I kind of overused it. Wish I'd brought the next size up. Also no camera? Presume that is a personal choice but I always like to get a photo for my mother. Enjoy your trip.
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 8:59 pm
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 9:01 pm
Mon 27 Jul, 2020 9:12 pm
Tue 28 Jul, 2020 6:53 pm
Thu 30 Jul, 2020 10:57 pm
Fri 31 Jul, 2020 8:37 am
Fri 31 Jul, 2020 8:42 pm
Petew wrote:Have you tried the Kindle app on your phone?
You could leave the Kindle and take a 10000mah power bank instead.
You can buy a cheaper version of the z seat, Ultralight hiker sell them.
If you haven't bought your sleep pad yet I can reccomend the Exped synmat hyperlight winter mat. I used one on the OT last winter. Very comfortable and 430g.
emma_melbourne wrote:I didn't do a kilojules calculation @Moondog55 but I took very calculated food - in terms of sachet tuna with olive oil to mix into couscous, salmon with dill to mix in with angel hair pasta with additional mini lemon infused olive oil to mix in, foil sachet olives, dehydrated Backcountry Cuisine / Campers pantry meals, mini Snickers bars, trail mix, morning 2 x porridge sachets per day with added ingredients to make more exciting, Carmans crackers with salami and parmesan cheese, etc. (Carman's Crackers are 2400 kj/ per 100 grams ) and cheese crisps which are a great tip if you're doing hikes more than 3 days ish in length and your fresh parmesan might go a bit yuck and need using by then.
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/prod ... ese-crisps
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/prod ... ked-pepper
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/prod ... poppy-seed
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/prod ... ked-pepper
https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/prod ... -oil-blend
I ate well on the trail. I had no appetite beyond the 650 grams roughly a day that I ate. And I may well have lost a little weight but fine given I could afford to! (In fact what a great weight loss plan - wink)
Sat 01 Aug, 2020 10:55 am
Sat 01 Aug, 2020 12:07 pm
Petew wrote:The little foam bum pads are pretty handy on the OT. Cushion your butt, insulate it and keeps it dry too.
Sat 01 Aug, 2020 12:17 pm
Lamont wrote:Petew wrote:The little foam bum pads are pretty handy on the OT. Cushion your butt, insulate it and keeps it dry too.
Yes, I concur!
All I carry at the minute-but rather a bit of cut off 10mm CCF (smaller and easier for me to pack) -makes a top wee seat.
Sat 01 Aug, 2020 1:01 pm
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