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Thu 08 Jan, 2009 10:22 pm
Hi Tony,
With your extensive stove knowledge, what would be your recommended best 'off the shelf' stoves? I currently own a pocket rocket style stove, which is great for mild weather & low wind speeds, but I wouldn't trust it in the snow or with a wind shield. What would you suggest as a shortlist if I was to upgrade? I was thinking of a remote canister style, but your thoughts on this style, and any good examples would be appreciated.
Cheers
Luke
With your extensive stove knowledge, what would be your recommended best 'off the shelf' stoves? I currently own a pocket rocket style stove, which is great for mild weather & low wind speeds, but I wouldn't trust it in the snow or with a wind shield. What would you suggest as a shortlist if I was to upgrade? I was thinking of a remote canister style, but your thoughts on this style, and any good examples would be appreciated.
Cheers
Luke
Re: 8.8g remote canister stove
Fri 09 Jan, 2009 1:43 pm
Hi Luke,
Thank you for you question.
Firstly I would advise to get two gas stoves one for warmer and one for cold conditions.
The one for warmer conditions I would advise it would be hard to go past the Kovea Supalite or Mini upright stove at 60g it is the lightest off the shelf stove.
http://www.kovea.com/product_view.php?b ... 00&pno=696
The stove that I would advise for cold weather unfortunately is not made anymore and that is the Coleman Extreme, it is an outstanding performer in the cold, I modified mine to take the JetBoil 1.5l GCS pot with the flux ring and even though this stove pot combination is heavy it a standout performer, I have used my Xtreme JB pot combination to melt snow at -18C and had complaints that it was too quick, my mate did not have time to get his food ready before the water boiled.
There are a few alternatives, one is the Kovea moonwalker, and the gas canister can be used upside down with no problems. It is off shelf in most gear shops in Australia, I have not used this stove.
http://www.kovea.com/product_view.php?b ... 00&pno=617
The next is to use the Kovea Mini with the Brunton (made by Kovea) stove stand , this lowers the pot so a lower windshield can be used, there is also a simple cold weather MYOG modification that can be done, this combination is lighter than the moonwalker, the details are available on http://www.backpackinglight.com but you have to join to get the details. (I am still unsure how well this modification works but Roger Caffin, the designer thinks it works OK)
http://www.legear.com.au/Brunton-Stove- ... 100695.htm
Rogers site http://www.bushwalking.org.au/FAQ/FAQ_Stoves.htm has some great information on it.
Tony
luke_vic wrote:Hi Tony,
With your extensive stove knowledge, what would be your recommended best 'off the shelf' stoves? I currently own a pocket rocket style stove, which is great for mild weather & low wind speeds, but I wouldn't trust it in the snow or with a wind shield. What would you suggest as a shortlist if I was to upgrade? I was thinking of a remote canister style, but your thoughts on this style, and any good examples would be appreciated.
Cheers
Luke
Thank you for you question.
Firstly I would advise to get two gas stoves one for warmer and one for cold conditions.
The one for warmer conditions I would advise it would be hard to go past the Kovea Supalite or Mini upright stove at 60g it is the lightest off the shelf stove.
http://www.kovea.com/product_view.php?b ... 00&pno=696
The stove that I would advise for cold weather unfortunately is not made anymore and that is the Coleman Extreme, it is an outstanding performer in the cold, I modified mine to take the JetBoil 1.5l GCS pot with the flux ring and even though this stove pot combination is heavy it a standout performer, I have used my Xtreme JB pot combination to melt snow at -18C and had complaints that it was too quick, my mate did not have time to get his food ready before the water boiled.
There are a few alternatives, one is the Kovea moonwalker, and the gas canister can be used upside down with no problems. It is off shelf in most gear shops in Australia, I have not used this stove.
http://www.kovea.com/product_view.php?b ... 00&pno=617
The next is to use the Kovea Mini with the Brunton (made by Kovea) stove stand , this lowers the pot so a lower windshield can be used, there is also a simple cold weather MYOG modification that can be done, this combination is lighter than the moonwalker, the details are available on http://www.backpackinglight.com but you have to join to get the details. (I am still unsure how well this modification works but Roger Caffin, the designer thinks it works OK)
http://www.legear.com.au/Brunton-Stove- ... 100695.htm
Rogers site http://www.bushwalking.org.au/FAQ/FAQ_Stoves.htm has some great information on it.
Tony
Re: Best 'Off the Shelf' Stove? [split]
Fri 09 Jan, 2009 1:49 pm
I hope you guys don't mind, but I've split this off into it's own topic as I think it has valuable information that is quite different to the original topic.
Re: Best 'Off the Shelf' Stove? [split]
Fri 09 Jan, 2009 7:45 pm
Thanks for your reply & useful information Tony. I'll also study the Roger Callin website in more detail.
Cheers
Luke
Cheers
Luke
Re: Best 'Off the Shelf' Stove? [split]
Fri 09 Jan, 2009 8:56 pm
luke_vic,
Your pocket rocket (type)will work in almost all conditions with this little beauty http://www.brunton.com/magnify.php?imag ... TAND_L.jpg cheapest price I could find was REI , I dont make stoves but I am a sad collector (9 last count)and whilst the PR is not my choice of burner now it is still used at home (to roast capsicums) I think if you really need to acquire a new burner the Kovea KB0101 (my latest) or the KB-0707 would be good choices .
By the way if you do purchase one of these stands they come with a a lightweight wind screen 60g,and if you are really doing the minus% winter walks put your canister in a warming sock which will help
corvus
Your pocket rocket (type)will work in almost all conditions with this little beauty http://www.brunton.com/magnify.php?imag ... TAND_L.jpg cheapest price I could find was REI , I dont make stoves but I am a sad collector (9 last count)and whilst the PR is not my choice of burner now it is still used at home (to roast capsicums) I think if you really need to acquire a new burner the Kovea KB0101 (my latest) or the KB-0707 would be good choices .
By the way if you do purchase one of these stands they come with a a lightweight wind screen 60g,and if you are really doing the minus% winter walks put your canister in a warming sock which will help
corvus
Re: Best 'Off the Shelf' Stove? [split]
Fri 09 Jan, 2009 9:33 pm
Tony,
I am not convinced that Kovea make the Butane Stove Stand that I advised you about as the one I have was made in China and I would suspect that any Kovea gear would be made in Korea ,still could be wrong.
c
I am not convinced that Kovea make the Butane Stove Stand that I advised you about as the one I have was made in China and I would suspect that any Kovea gear would be made in Korea ,still could be wrong.
c
Re: Best 'Off the Shelf' Stove? [split]
Sat 10 Jan, 2009 9:11 am
Hi Corvus,
You are probably right, I have not seen one yet. I was going on that the valve on the Brunton stand looks the same as the one on the moonwalker.
Kovea make MSR stoves, I have a Kovea Eagle and some of the parts fit the Pocket Rocket and even have the same machine marks.
Tony
corvus wrote:Tony,
I am not convinced that Kovea make the Butane Stove Stand that I advised you about as the one I have was made in China and I would suspect that any Kovea gear would be made in Korea ,still could be wrong.
c
You are probably right, I have not seen one yet. I was going on that the valve on the Brunton stand looks the same as the one on the moonwalker.
Kovea make MSR stoves, I have a Kovea Eagle and some of the parts fit the Pocket Rocket and even have the same machine marks.
Tony
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