Nemo tents

[pok]

Has anyone had any experience with the Nemo tents? I'm getting interested in the Morpho.

It looks like a semi-single skin 2P tent, with a retractable vestibule. Meaning the tent-part is single skin, with a fly that extends over the vestibule. You can jump into the vestibule, take off your boots/cook/sort gear/etc then when it comes time for sleeping, if you want extra room, you can extend the inner to take up the full space of the vestibule. Gear would either be in with you, or outside altogether.

It uses inflatable poles, which are apparently very strong, to make setup easier and the whole package lighter (2.3kg for 3.6+1.3 sqm)

Has anyone seen these? Or have any insights? Basically I'm after a 3 season, 2 person tent thats lighter than your bog standard tent

[Nuts]

I have a single person nemo (tipi style), only had a chance to pitch it so far, havent done a solo walk in a while. Very well made, intelligent design and lightweight. Not really convinced with the air beam thing. Hilleberg Nallo3 is similar weight and a nice big all season tent...

[pok]

From some of the reviews it seems that the Nallo could get very warm in summer up here on the NSW north coast, lacking cross ventilation. I doubt I'll ever be camping somewhere where it is going to snow. The cross-flow ventilation on the Morpho would be very welcome, as would the extra floor space. Plus, I like the gadget appeal of the airbeams. They're just cool!

[ninjapuppet]

They're are cool hey? LOL.

I have only seen the Nemo Tenshi in real life, and that tent had left a long lasting impression on my view for nemo products. Sadly they dont make them no more. one of the few tents around made of eVent.

Having said that, if you're not going into snow or windy territory, then spending vast amounts of money for a cool factor wont make sense to me. out in the bush the less complicated things are, the less things that can go wrong. I know Nemo is spaceage and all, but i reckon if the idea actually worked well, then other manufacturers would have caught onto it by now.

[pok]

out in the bush the less complicated things are, the less things that can go wrong.

One could argue that the airbeams are less complicated than poles. I find that poles are the first thing to go on tents, or the elastic inside them. As for punctures, valve issues and such- think of how little you get a punctures on a bicycle wheel, and that's with constant pressure and much more hard wear.

... i reckon if the idea actually worked well, then other manufacturers would have caught onto it by now.

I did come across some smaller companies using this sort of thing when I was first researching these, but dismissed them as inferior startups compared to Nemo. Airzone Recreation was one, can't recall the others. I seem to recall one website of the 'Here is my son putting a kayak on the tent to show it's strong" variety.

[MJD]

I've got a Nemo Go-Go Bivy. Only used it a couple of times. Once in sub-zero conditions on the ridge running out to Barn Bluff. Nicely made. I would certainly take it anywhere for a night or two.

[nakedape]

We've got a Nemo - its the Losi 3 I'm a rather tall bugger, so having the extra floor space is fantastic - although we pay a premium in weight BUT it is the lightest 3 person we could find. We find the tent to be well constructed, easy to use and in most respects a delight to spend nights in the bush in. It has two large vestibules which is fantastic for dirty boots and smelly socks and our packs etc. Recently we slept 4 (2 adults and 2 kids) in it - a bit squishy but warm. it is also quite well ventilated, which may mean an upgrade of sleeping bag and mat if used in (real) cold weather. We've had it out in snow, rain and all sorts and it performs well despite 3 season rating.

Now, those air poles - we dont have them and for very good reason - I reckon you could find yourself in all sorts of trouble given a sudden atmospheric pressure drop (e.g. cold front or sudden drop in ambient temp). When the pressure plummets outside, so it will also in the poles = floppy/ saggy tent in the middle of the night . I'd like to be proven wrong as I too like innovative design solutions.

I know the model is different but hopefully you find the assessment of the brand useful

Cheers
nakedape

[Liamy77]

northern NSW and hot.... why bother with a tent at all?... a nice tarp / bashar and a mozzie net would be cheaper, lighter, and have way more ventillation...

[JoshT]

Sorry to dig up an old thread, just thought I'd add my comments.

I've owned a Nemo Espri 2p for about a year, have found it to be pretty good. I don't think it's quite as light as they claim, though not sure exactly what they include when working out the 'packed weight'. It's very sturdy in winds, I've had no issues with condensation, and it goes up and down very quickly. Only issue is it's slightly tapered which they don't point out in the advertising, so you would need to know your second person pretty well if you were sharing the tent.

There are a few Nemo tents (and others) on sale at American site mountainsplus.com, good prices and reasonable shipping direct to Australia. All tents come with a footprint and theres a 10% off coupon on the net if you search for it. I'm not trying to advertise, sorry if this isn't allowed, just saw they had some good deals on at the moment.

[legend]

I have the Nemo Meta2 person trekking pole tent. It has stood up to heavy rain (250mm in 24hours) and gales on the central plateau in Jan. It has two huge vestibules and comfortably supports self (185cm) and my partner and a couple of extras when they want to come in and share a cuppa in extreme weather. It is a single skin tent & weighs 1.30Kg (without poles). The outside surface has the most amazing water beading properties I've seen in my almost 40 years of bushwalking. It pitches easily and the venting works especially well, though condensation can be a problem (no worse than my Hilleberg Nallo2 & Kaitum tents), especially on foggy still nights, but is easily fixed by wiping the inside down with a chux cloth. The vestibules can be folded right back, leaving a verandah type overhang (due to the pole configuration).

[Peaksnik]

I'm resurrecting the thread to inform anyone interested at the excellent product support offered by Nemo. I purchased a Losi 2 tent three years ago online from the USA. Just recently I noticed that the waterproof lining on the fly was delaminating. I contacted Nemo by email and they acknowledged that they had had a problem with hydrolysis - shared by other manufacturers too - especially in areas of high humidity (viz. Qld). The problem had been rectified with a different fabric treatment. I was asked to supply them with pictures of the damage and the serial number of the tent (found on the tent bag) and they would honour the lifetime warranty. The end result was a completely new tent - the latest version of the Losi 2 including some design tweaks - arriving on my doorstep in 10 days. The whole experience has given me greater confidence in using overseas and online suppliers.

[ninjapuppet]

did you have to post your tent back to them at your own cost? or did they only require the photos and serial number?

[Toohp]

Ive been looking at lots of tent's lately and I must say the nemo tents look and feel pretty darn good , Ive narrowed my choice down to the Nemo Losi 2 , it's got great headroom & looks very well made .
I know the Hillibergs are good but not in my budget . And it's just for motorbike touring & to replace my old Epe two man which has a Chemical plastic smell that just wont go away and I wake with headache's .
Found that to be the cause as it donsn't happen with my 1 man Terra Nova .

[Peaksnik]

did you have to post your tent back to them at your own cost? or did they only require the photos and serial number?

Ninjapuppet, I still have the old tent. There was no cost at all to me in their supply of the new tent. Amazing story of a company that truly backs its products and keeps to it word.


And Toohp, you'll find the Losi 2 is very roomy. One of my walking partners is 6' 4" and he has one too and loves it.

[vellnagel]

I have a Nemo Losi 2P. I've only been out twice in it, but already am very happy with it. Most of the great features have already been covered in this thread. I'll add though that one of the times I used it was a few week back when, I understand, Springbook had some nightly rainfall record, and the tent stood up to it perfectly.

Having the Losi I can't comment on the air inflated poles, but everything I've read on them sounds positive.