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Fri 16 Sep, 2011 8:55 am
I recently purchased from another member here a WE "Outbreak" rucksac.
The reason I offered it back for sale was the size of the hip-belt, I really do need the Large or Extra large hipbelt with this pack.
as there really seems to be no interest in the sale I have thought about keeping it and buying a replacement hip belt in the correct size.
I am after some feedback on the choice offered by WE for replacements.
A replacement hip belt is $70- so while not the absolute bargain the sac seemed at the time of purchase will still be much cheaper than buying a new pack.
Opinions please folks on the merits of the two hipbelt styles offered by WE
Do I get replacement wings in a large for the syncroform
OR
get a Large in the Uni-fit??
http://www.wildequipment.com.au/backpac ... e=WEHIPUNI
And do people who have used the thinner pads find them comfortable? I think from looking at the padding on the wings I may be better off with the slim model
The reason I offered it back for sale was the size of the hip-belt, I really do need the Large or Extra large hipbelt with this pack.
as there really seems to be no interest in the sale I have thought about keeping it and buying a replacement hip belt in the correct size.
I am after some feedback on the choice offered by WE for replacements.
A replacement hip belt is $70- so while not the absolute bargain the sac seemed at the time of purchase will still be much cheaper than buying a new pack.
Opinions please folks on the merits of the two hipbelt styles offered by WE
Do I get replacement wings in a large for the syncroform
OR
get a Large in the Uni-fit??
http://www.wildequipment.com.au/backpac ... e=WEHIPUNI
And do people who have used the thinner pads find them comfortable? I think from looking at the padding on the wings I may be better off with the slim model
Re: Help me decide please
Tue 20 Sep, 2011 10:56 am
No answers?
Has no-one here ever changed a hip-belt on one of these packs??
Has no-one here ever changed a hip-belt on one of these packs??
Re: Help me decide please
Tue 20 Sep, 2011 11:20 am
Seems not 
Can you ask WE or visit a shop to test the options out?
Maybe ask to have both sent to you to try and return the one you don't want?
Can you ask WE or visit a shop to test the options out?
Maybe ask to have both sent to you to try and return the one you don't want?
Re: Help me decide please
Tue 20 Sep, 2011 12:05 pm
That is a good idea, although i may have to pay for both in advance.
Re: Help me decide please
Tue 20 Sep, 2011 8:42 pm
G'day Moondog55,
Contact Sea to Summit about this and if you are lucky they will pass your query on to Ian Maley
the founder and original designer of WE gear who may be able to give you a positive answer as I suspect few or none of the WE retailers would have "replacement waist belts " ex stock for you to try.
corvus
P.S. I think you meant "Breakout"
Contact Sea to Summit about this and if you are lucky they will pass your query on to Ian Maley
the founder and original designer of WE gear who may be able to give you a positive answer as I suspect few or none of the WE retailers would have "replacement waist belts " ex stock for you to try.
corvus
P.S. I think you meant "Breakout"
Re: Help me decide please
Wed 21 Sep, 2011 12:13 pm
Whoops Yes my bad
http://www.wildequipment.com.au/backpac ... Code=WEBO2
I'll try and get an opinion from IanM
http://www.wildequipment.com.au/backpac ... Code=WEBO2
I'll try and get an opinion from IanM
Re: Help me decide please
Wed 21 Sep, 2011 11:12 pm
Long time reader, first time commenting
I own a Lost World, Which I bought in 2005.
It has a Synchro-Form harness. http://www.wildequipment.com.au/ex_harn ... ode=WELOST .I use it with the standard shoulder inserts and with Link Strap that connects the two Hip Wings.
I have never used the Uni-Fit harness. I also haven't seen the modern version of this. My sister does happen to have an older W.E. pack with the old Uni-fit hip belt on it.
Both harnesses are significantly different in how they would ride on your hips. My suggestion would be to go into a retailer that has W.E. packs and explain that you want a different hip belt. You have to buy it through a retailer regardless. Ask to try on the packs that they have on the shelf to feel what exactly what each hip belt feels like.
You're unlikely to find a Uni-fit hip belt in a shop though as they are mostly only used these days by school groups as they are stronger/less fiddly/less delicate. The Syncro-Form harness is a very interesting/unique harness system compared to others on the market. I would never advise anyone buy it with out trying it on first. I think more people are likely to hate it then love it. I feel it's also largely misunderstood and miss fitted by many retailers as it's such a complex harness. Which is unfortunate as it really is amazing at heavy loads (30+ kgs).
One small thing that I feel with the W.E. harness compared to softer harnesses such as One Planet, Mont, Macpac etc. is that the canvas face fabric takes quite a bit of getting used to. I sometimes had to tape my hips when it was new as it rubbed a bit on my skin. Then I again, I see this regularly happen to other people even in soft cushioned One Planets
I also agree with the suggestion that you should email Sea to Summit. It's surprising how many emails Ian Maley personally responds to. I once asked a question about how to fit my pack as none of the shops new much about it. The response I got from him was remarkably detailed. He genuinely cares very much for the quality and design of his gear. I got the vibe that is he was very anal about correct design and he is very keen for people to understand why a product is the way it is. The W.E. website reflect his passion and accuracy for detailed description of products.
My only wish is that they start to produce lighter weight gear. I know there are a few new light weight packs coming soon.
I hope that helps somehow.
I own a Lost World, Which I bought in 2005.
It has a Synchro-Form harness. http://www.wildequipment.com.au/ex_harn ... ode=WELOST .I use it with the standard shoulder inserts and with Link Strap that connects the two Hip Wings.
I have never used the Uni-Fit harness. I also haven't seen the modern version of this. My sister does happen to have an older W.E. pack with the old Uni-fit hip belt on it.
Both harnesses are significantly different in how they would ride on your hips. My suggestion would be to go into a retailer that has W.E. packs and explain that you want a different hip belt. You have to buy it through a retailer regardless. Ask to try on the packs that they have on the shelf to feel what exactly what each hip belt feels like.
You're unlikely to find a Uni-fit hip belt in a shop though as they are mostly only used these days by school groups as they are stronger/less fiddly/less delicate. The Syncro-Form harness is a very interesting/unique harness system compared to others on the market. I would never advise anyone buy it with out trying it on first. I think more people are likely to hate it then love it. I feel it's also largely misunderstood and miss fitted by many retailers as it's such a complex harness. Which is unfortunate as it really is amazing at heavy loads (30+ kgs).
One small thing that I feel with the W.E. harness compared to softer harnesses such as One Planet, Mont, Macpac etc. is that the canvas face fabric takes quite a bit of getting used to. I sometimes had to tape my hips when it was new as it rubbed a bit on my skin. Then I again, I see this regularly happen to other people even in soft cushioned One Planets
I also agree with the suggestion that you should email Sea to Summit. It's surprising how many emails Ian Maley personally responds to. I once asked a question about how to fit my pack as none of the shops new much about it. The response I got from him was remarkably detailed. He genuinely cares very much for the quality and design of his gear. I got the vibe that is he was very anal about correct design and he is very keen for people to understand why a product is the way it is. The W.E. website reflect his passion and accuracy for detailed description of products.
My only wish is that they start to produce lighter weight gear. I know there are a few new light weight packs coming soon.
I hope that helps somehow.
Re: Help me decide please
Thu 22 Sep, 2011 9:45 am
I too have had personal responses from Ian, i believe that he is in Vietnam at the new factory at the moment.
I have mailed him and asked for advice and I am waiting on a reply. I think if I could get the Syncro-Form in the light weight padding in the correct size (Large) I would be happy with that
I have mailed him and asked for advice and I am waiting on a reply. I think if I could get the Syncro-Form in the light weight padding in the correct size (Large) I would be happy with that
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