tent for Tassie walking [merged]

[tasadam]

Hilleberg Nallo 2 is much cheaper than $800 bucks and you get the extra benefit of not supporting Macpac

I don't have any problem supporting Macpac, not sure what that's about...
But I didn't choose the Olympus because
Nallo2 was considerably less weight
Nallo2 was less expensive
Nallo2 is strong enough for anything I want to do
Other reasons I can't remember now.

[Nuts]

I think the Olympus was cheaper during the sale? Saw a green one last week, have to say it was one of the nicest Looking tents ive seen! Still looks solid also...
That said, I do like the Nallo. I believe whilst the same length the 3 seems to have more useable length given the longer, higher? (rear) poles.
While not the lightest option, to me a (perhaps 2 poled) Nallo2 (with mesh inner) would be the Best lighter weight tent for all-round tassie Solo use. I would consider the Olympus (for two) if someone would help carry it, no doubt it would handle the most extreme weather plus...

I would add to my comments about TT that they (to me) include genuine questions (however they come across). I guess at some point we reach the limit of manufacturers knowledge about their products (without having them start to guess). I have time for TT and Macpac for continuing to answer such questions on the forum, perhaps 'tent for tassie walking' could be a highlighted topic, lots gets repeated and it lets the proponents slip away to other topics when things get tough ( ) The photos and reviews (ive got through) are pretty impressive Franco, to anyone wanting to save half a kg the Scarp (so far) appears a good Compromise...

[Funky_Bunch]

yes waiting for the right time to buy an olympus is the key and you can get it for less than $800 if you time it right.

Franco, there was no disrespect intended in my comments, just the way i see it is all. my point of view. just as other people disagree with my views toward Macpac and thats fine by me. ive never had one bit of their equipment fail on me, lived in an olympus for the best part of 150 days in one year in tas and in winter in the vic alps (cleared the snow, went to bed, woke up to a perfectly shaped tent, went outside, tent completly buried in snow) my endorsement for it is based on those combined experiences. so for me im happy and happy to share that. as have other people shared positive experiences with your product.
so once agin no disrespect intended.

[Franco]

No problem...
Franco

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[Nuts]

Maybe it suggests he was simply looking at the tent mentioned in the original post, the one that can use trekking poles?

[ILUVSWTAS]

(try pole vauleting with your tent poles...)
Franco

Hmm a new campsite activity perhaps??

[Franco]

I was watching Bear Grylls the other night literally pole vaulting (using a 3m plus 10 cm wide tree trunk) down a fairly steep ravine.
Must try that some day...
Franco

[ILUVSWTAS]

I was watching Bear Grylls the other night literally pole vaulting (using a 3m plus 10 cm wide tree trunk) down a fairly steep ravine.
Must try that some day...
Franco

Yeh thats cool huh. Seen the one where he tries to pole vault across a raging creek??

[Franco]

Yes, same episode. I changed to chanell "OFF" after that..

Franco

[blacksheep]

..... and you get the extra benefit of not supporting Macpac

that's a bit nasty...don't expect a christmas card from my family this year.

[ollster]

..... and you get the extra benefit of not supporting Macpac

that's a bit nasty...don't expect a christmas card from my family this year.

I love Macpac with all my heart and wish others did too. Then we could have, y'know, world peace.

EDIT: Except for the Microlight.

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[Franco]

I have been a member of BPL (US forum) for several years and had been "a guest" for some time before that.
One thing I noticed is that we get fewer and fewer manufacturers/business owners participating as time goes by.
And I can clearly see why..
Who loses out ?

The problem usually is that some take the line that if a product is not custom made for them than it isn't any good for anyone.
I try to see products for the intended use not personal likes or expectations.
For example as much as I like the Scarp because it does what I want it to do, I can see why others would prefer a Nallo, however if I was expecting a great pile of snow to fall on me I rather be inside the Olympus...
(BTW, I like my Macpac bits, so there)
Franco

[ILUVSWTAS]

I think this, viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5718 Will make things alot easier for the reps and buyers alike.

[frenchy_84]

..... and you get the extra benefit of not supporting Macpac

that's a bit nasty...don't expect a christmas card from my family this year.

The only reason i said it was because i didnt get one this year!
Nah we all have our likes/dislikes and if it makes you feel any better i do own a Macpac Cascade and would shop with you before i shopped at Crapmandu.

[frenchy_84]

I have been a member of BPL (US forum) for several years and had been "a guest" for some time before that.
One thing I noticed is that we get fewer and fewer manufacturers/business owners participating as time goes by.
And I can clearly see why..

It would be a shame to lose manufacturers from the forum, i think it is both benefitial for normal members and manufacturers because normal members can get knowledge and insight to products from the people who know and make them but also the manufacturers can also explain and correct misconceptions of their products, as you have been able to here Franco.

[Son of a Beach]

The posts discussing Brands, Shops, Marketing, Pricing, Sales, etc, have been split off to this new topic.

[rucksack]

I have been out walking, so have only caught up with this thread.

I have a Nallo 2 and an Olympus. For me, they are both very good two-person four season tents; each has its own strengths, of course. I have had three Macpacs (1984 single door, 1990 two door and my present one, a 1999 two door with polyester fly). They have all been great and as Franco has noted, if the snow is heavy and sustained, there is no better tent to be sheltering inside than an Olympus, weight not withstanding. Mine have sustained me in some truly atrocious - and sustained - bad weather in Tasmania over many, many years. I was out on the Wilmot Range earlier this month and there were some ferocious swinging easterly winds about up on the saddles for a couple of nights (and days). Mrs rucksack and I sheltered safely inside my Nallo 2 and like tasadam, the tent really cracked like a whip in the serious gusts, but at no time was there any sense that the tent wouldn't manage. It was all pegged out and guyed, of course, and it was noisy and perhaps noisier than an Olympus, but it came though with flying colours. Damn good tent.

I have other three season tents, but for walking in Tasmania (and especially wandering around in south western parts), with the ever-present likelihood of sustained poor weather, I wouldn't leave home without either the Nallo 2 or the Olympus. The Nallo 2 is lighter, of course, and the Olympus seems to more easily handle heavier snow loads, being a three pole design as against the Nallo's two poles, but all in all, they are both great tents for me. I am happy to take either.

I have never tried a Scarp 2, so I cannot comment, but there are clearly many TT fans on this site. Like stoves, tents are very personal. I have two four season tents that work for me, so a third four season tent I do not need, although I have somehow ended up with seven stoves and that doesn't seem to stop me from looking at others.

Hmm.

rucksack

[ILUVSWTAS]

How about one of these??

http://thechive.com/2011/02/01/would-yo ... tents-1-2/

[Orion]

For bushwalking they're too heavy, too expensive, they don't pack well, and condensation can be a big problem.
Plus without a rock wall or a tree you'll feel even sillier carrying one.

[Bronski]

Hi, Haven't read all the posts in full, but I am getting the gist. I returned from a 2 week trip around Tassie 2 weeks ago. I have been reminded of needing a 4 season tent in Tassie. I've gotten away with 3 season tents many times in the Vic Alps over summer. But the walk to WoJ proved me wrong. We went over a period of 3 glorious days of sunshine. Saw the weather report and set off. Our first night saw the sun go down and this incredible mist consume Wild Dog Creek Campsite. I had the new Nemo Meta and was regretting my decission. Having a few other factors thrown into that night (a serios health problem overnight), I endured my hardest night ever in the backcountry. It wasn't even snowing, or drizzle, or blizzard, or raining. Go 4 season. It's not an option, just do it. I have already bought another 4 season having stupidly sold the old Kathmandu snow tent (well, I never really liked it anyway). I bought a Nemo Losi 3 Storm and yet to give it a burl.

Anyway....just wanted to pipe in and say.....4 season.

[ollster]

Go 4 season. It's not an option, just do it.

"Go 4 season... because you never know."

[ninjapuppet]

Bronski, what happened to your Nemo Meta ? did it collapse or fail in anyway?
or did it let in too much wind? was it more a problem with the stakes holding down?

cheers

[Nuts]

Problem controlling condensation? Too small for a 'sick bay'? Which model?

[Bronski]

Apologies for the belated reply! My husband was hit on his bike by a car soon after my last reply. Yes, the bike's fine! Phew! Oh, the husband? A few crushed bones in his foot, nothing a few screws and bridging plate and months of no weight bearing won't fix! So we haven't been doing any walking or skiing since then, and since I was redundant to looking after him and neither of us getting much into the outdoors, I didn't pain myself more by looking at maps, shopping for new gear or browsing any forums. But the shopping has recommenced and here I am on the forum again.
Gosh, I gotta try and remember what was bad about the Meta in WOJ again.
The tent took extra thought and the spare line we had to put up on the camping deck. It’s not freestanding, and requires being quite taut to function well. It’s almost too wide for the single size decks; luckily a big deck was free for us to set up on. The nature of the gaping vestibules and the mesh-only closure to the tent inner meant that it was a great dew-trapper, as the condensation came up as the sun went down. Match that with a night of no wind and we were wiping condensation all night inside the tent. The tent cannot hold a warm cell of air. Couple these things with migraine and vomiting most of the night and no, it was not a good sick bay 
To equal it all out, the meta has been perfect for last summer’s costal walking. It’s perfect for conditions where you want free flow of air, but protection from bugs!

[Bronski]

Here's the set up in question...

[blacksheep]

(sorry- mistaken post)

[mjdalessa]

What do people think of the Exped Andromeda? I like the size side of it, but how does it hold up to weather etc. out in the field?