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Bushwalk Inventory System can help bushwalkers with a variety of bushwalk planning tasks, including: Manage which items they take bushwalking so that they do not forget anything they might need, plan meals for their walks, and automatically compile food/fuel shopping lists (lists of consumables) required to make and cook the meals for each walk. It is particularly useful for planning for groups who share food or other items, but is also useful for individual walkers.
Fri 11 Jun, 2010 7:27 pm
Has anyone had the experience of these containers failing from the inside I have had several shatter when squeezed,internal plastic had gone brittle which is a bit of a worry for food /liquid storage in a supposed Lab quality container.
corvus
Fri 11 Jun, 2010 8:43 pm
i poured boiling water into a small 500ml bottle at home and it deformed. was very dissapointed because now it cant stand upright no more.
I did it on a track which was ok, but i guess the weather was much colder in the mountains compared to my kitchen.
Fri 11 Jun, 2010 11:24 pm
not totally on topic, but we have taken to only using lined metal bottles.
Sat 12 Jun, 2010 12:15 am
Used them for years without problems so far. But I would make an observation that they do seem to harden with age/use, which seems consistent with them becoming brittle. How old are the ones that have failed? Also I wonder if more extreme conditions might decrease their lifespan, such as really cold temperatures. A lot of snow trips? A bit disappointing regardless. They're not particularly expensive but supposed to be quite bombproof I thought, so that's a bit of a worry.
Sat 12 Jun, 2010 1:57 pm
My old 1litre narrow neck one became brittle and disintegrated. Did have it for about 10 years though, liked it enough to buy another one.
Tue 20 Dec, 2011 10:52 pm
I have been using them for years without any issues. They have a lifetime warrantee against defect which is a rare and pleasant guarantee in this age of planned obsolescence. If you do manage to break one just take it back for a replacement.
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 4:45 am
Why use them they are heavy, just use a PET bottle they are indestructible and cheap.
By softdrink cordidal ect drink and use empties, endless cheap supply of water bottles of any size needed

Cheers.
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 7:11 am
Yep, they do seem to get brittle with age. I have droped an old one (not far & onto dirt) & it shattered.
Mark
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 11:53 am
John Sheridan wrote:Why use them they are heavy, just use a PET bottle they are indestructible and cheap.
That is what I do. They seem to last just fine. My one Nalagene jar does not get any use any more.
Andrew
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 5:12 pm
Just as a follow up to my original post it was little bottles I had problems with 30ml/60ml used for Olive oil, butter and or Sauces and they were well used and old
corvus
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 6:59 pm
Aushiker wrote:John Sheridan wrote:Why use them they are heavy, just use a PET bottle they are indestructible and cheap.
That is what I do. They seem to last just fine. My one Nalagene jar does not get any use any more.
Andrew
I use 1.5l homebrand soda bottles quite a lot. On long trips they can get flexed too much and spring a leak.
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 7:15 pm
Like John Sheridan, I'm wondering why anyone uses Nalgene bottles due to their weight.
For larger volumes of liquid (>1000ml), I'd use a wine bladder. For 500ml or less, I'd use an old soft drink bottle. For small volumes (50ml or less), I use a pathology company urine specimen jar (which I fortunately have access to, but, if needed, you can buy one quite cheaply from a chemist).
All cheap or free, as light as can be, and who cares how long they last, or whether a truck can run over them.
A
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 7:48 pm
corvus wrote:Just as a follow up to my original post it was little bottles I had problems with 30ml/60ml used for Olive oil, butter and or Sauces and they were well used and old
corvus
Lucky for you I know someone with them in bulk and they are unused and new

, & almost free!!
Some of these things are far cheaper than the old days eh... Only public servants could afford to replace Proper nalgenes lol
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 8:05 pm
andrewa wrote:Like John Sheridan, I'm wondering why anyone uses Nalgene bottles due to their weight.
For larger volumes of liquid (>1000ml), I'd use a wine bladder. For 500ml or less, I'd use an old soft drink bottle. For small volumes (50ml or less), I use a pathology company urine specimen jar (which I fortunately have access to, but, if needed, you can buy one quite cheaply from a chemist).
All cheap or free, as light as can be, and who cares how long they last, or whether a truck can run over them.
A
May hold the PEE (50 ml shees my cup would be running over with that size) but not the good oils which are very difficult to contain as mentioned elsewhere on this forum
corvus
p.s. I use a 1lt stainless steel as my water bottle now
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 8:48 pm
Corvus, the "Good oils" , by which I presume you mean the evening tipples, are happily held in either my 2l wine bladder(longer trip, but only half full ---------------- I suppose a litre of whisky will last me at least 5hrs!), or old soft drink bottles (250ml, 350ml, 500ml, 750ml, 1.25l.....) for shorter trips (eg 500mls of whisky for an hour day walk). They never seem to break, and are disposable. Also good for holding metho for the coke can/ cat food can stove brigade.
Your "pee bottles", unfairly described as they are, are useful for small amounts of coffee, sugar, oil, margarine, vegemite etc. They will not leak (which is why they are used for "specimens" of all kinds). AND, if you want a smaller, and harder to get bottle of about 25ml diameter, and 7-8cm long, the pathology companies use these for collecting placental cord blood. If you need the fomer, next time you're at your GP, ask for a few urine jars. I imagine we would all be happy to oblige.
A
Wed 21 Dec, 2011 9:02 pm
G'day andrewa,
No I actually meant Good Oils ie Extra Virgin Olive etc ,when required I do have dedicated " medicinal spirit " containers and with respect I doubt specimen bottles will contain Oils other than on a short trip (glad to be proved wrong) after all "specimens" from what I understand need to be treated with alacrity
corvus
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