Bushwalkers Wheels

Bushwalking gear and paraphernalia. Electronic gadget topics (inc. GPS, PLB, chargers) belong in the 'Techno Babble' sub-forum.
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TIP: The online Bushwalk Inventory System can help bushwalkers with a variety of bushwalk planning tasks, including: Manage which items they take bushwalking so that they do not forget anything they might need, plan meals for their walks, and automatically compile food/fuel shopping lists (lists of consumables) required to make and cook the meals for each walk. It is particularly useful for planning for groups who share food or other items, but is also useful for individual walkers.

Re: Bushwalkers Wheels

Postby stry » Tue 23 Jul, 2013 8:32 am

Grabeach wrote:There are probably bigger decisions for the environmentally minded car buyer than whether a car has stop/start technology or not. Years ago I read article on the positive and negative affects on the environment of buying a new car. From memory there were two conclusions reached:-
1. It is environmentally sound to replace an unaerodynamic, leaded fuel, carburettored gas guzzler with a new vehicle.
2. It is NOT environmentally sound to replace later (eg. now 10 years old) unleaded, computerised fuel injected vehicles, because the environmental cost of producing the new vehicle outweigh the operating savings. This of course was not great news for the vehicle manufacturing industry!


Thanks Grabeach. That's sort of the big picture I was looking at, even if I got a bit fixated on the stop/go thing.

There was also a study many years ago which suggested that in the big eco picture the most environmentally friendly vehicle was a bare bones, current manufacture Jeep. The details were hazy and presumably this would have been the two wheel drive version used by USPS, and with modern engine management systems. Things like lack of plastics, simplicity of manufacture and ease of recycling were touted as major contributions to the eco friendliness. Toxic by products and energy consumption in this manufacturing process were said to be lower. The fuel consumption was acknowledged and taken into account. Doubt if the vehicle described would have had a 5 star safety rating :D

Not sure about the source, and it may have been industry based. Regardless, I thought it was thought provoking.
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Re: Bushwalkers Wheels

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 23 Jul, 2013 9:22 am

Grabeach wrote:There are probably bigger decisions for the environmentally minded car buyer than whether a car has stop/start technology or not. Years ago I read article on the positive and negative affects on the environment of buying a new car. From memory there were two conclusions reached:-
1. It is environmentally sound to replace an unaerodynamic, leaded fuel, carburettored gas guzzler with a new vehicle.
2. It is NOT environmentally sound to replace later (eg. now 10 years old) unleaded, computerised fuel injected vehicles, because the environmental cost of producing the new vehicle outweigh the operating savings. This of course was not great news for the vehicle manufacturing industry!

Good point. I don't think anyone is upgrading just for auto stop-start. Given that people do upgrade at some point, the latest vehicles are more fuel efficient than past generations. Apart from vanity, the big question is when is an appropriate time to upgrade vehicles? I think that reliability plays a big part for most people, more so than economic and environmental reasons.
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Re: Bushwalkers Wheels

Postby beachcruiser » Tue 23 Jul, 2013 4:26 pm

Back to the original topic, I just bought an MY12 Series 3 Forester because I didn't like the options in the 2013 Foresters (manual available in 2L only, no dual range)

Don't Foresters only have low-range in the manual versions?


Low-range has been deleted in all the 2013 series 4 Foresters

It's my 4th Subaru; 1998 Forester, 2006 Outback, 2007 Liberty GT tuned by STI (not an offroad car but super fun) and now 2012 Forester but it may be my last... or perhaps I'll just have to give up driving manuals...
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