What's a "Fair" price for S/H gear

[Moondog55]

I just found on eBay a second hand tent that suits my needs for next winter as a back-up tent.
It's an original Caddis but carrying the Snowgum brand and retailed as a Retreat

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/121173781814 ... 1423.l2649

Flysheet probably needs a reproof from the description
If I can't afford it I point it out as a possibility for anyone joining me at Falls Creek next winter.

[Maelgwn]

Given it looks like an industrial model/targeted as use in schools/groups - I would think it was only ~$300 new. So for one in excellent condition - maybe $100?

Of course very hard to tell from only the photos. I did not interpret their comments as meaning the flysheet needed reproofing - the waterproof coating stuff is not flaking off yet, therefore it sounds ok? However if you assume the worst and believe it needs doing, I would say $50 is plenty already.

Based on seeing this used by schools/scouts in the past, the skinny aluminum poles in this design are prone to snapping after only moderate amounts of reasonable use.

[Moondog55]

The large size was what you need in winter, I'll bid to a slightly higher figure then but no over $70-
I happen to have spare wands that size on hand but in FG

[andrewa]

MD, I agree with above. If you need to reroof it, that's an additional considerable amount of work.....

Also, I dont know what your recollection of those "caddis" style tents was...I was working part time in MDs in the early to mid 80s. The original Caddis was a great tent at that time. But copies of it started to have issues with poor saggy pitch. It's not a good snow shedding design.....and flops around in wind, unless anchored extremely tight, and well enough made to pitch very tight.

I'd be looking for a 3 person 4 pole geodesic dome for what you did this year, for next year. I have an old K'mandu Mountain Dome which we pull out for 3 people snow trips/longer snow trips. It's about 4.5kg. The tape on the fly is peeling off/decaying, but the rest of the coating looks fine. I know it needs a reproof, as it leaches water. If I was to sell it ( and I don't want to), I wouldn't expect more than $100, and its a bombproof design, which happens to pitch well.

BTW, I happened across 9mm aluminium tent poles from China on eBay the other day...at something like $15-20 per 4m something length, plus postage, so poles are cheap to replace if needed

Eg http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Outdoor-Camp ... e54&_uhb=1

I also recently bought some excellent quality snow pegs on eBay from similar sellers....about $1.50 each

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/5PCS-8-7-8-R ... 305&_uhb=1

I reckon that Caddis copy has probably topped out in price already....

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[Moondog55]

I bid to my maximum already and found something courtesy of a forum member.
If I was to buy a dome it would need to have 2000mm of headroom so I could stand up in it, if I could afford a Helsport Varanger Camp that would be my choice.
I bought similar but longer pegs for snow, 300mm worked well for me

[highercountry]

I'm not certain that the Snowgum Caddis is the same tent as the One Planet Industrial Caddis, although it looks very similar.
I have a 12 year old One Planet Caddis and an 18 year old Macpac Olympus. They are both heavy tents by today's standards, but quite alike in design,finish and construction quality.
I actually rate the One Planet tent more highly than the Olympus. The Macpac tent faded relatively quickly to the point where I couldn't trust it in rugged conditions due to the UV deterioration, whereas the Caddis is still going strong to this day. The One Planet tent has regularly been pitched in full summer sun for up to 3 weeks at a time, doesn't sag, nor have the poles snapped, nor has it faded, nor does it leak. It has withstood extreme gale force coastal winds, sand, snow on Feathertop and several thunderstorms.
Spares such as poles are still available from One Planet though I haven't needed them.
Yes it is heavy but it is the best tent I have ever owned from a durability standpoint.
I bought a Hilleberg Soulo a couple of years ago for bicycle touring but still consider the Caddis a better tent for my purposes ie. coastal (mostly) bike tours, 2-3 night walks in Croajingalong and the East Gippsland Alps. The Caddis is just a more comfortable, spacious and hardier tent than the Soulo and far more reasonably priced.

[Maelgwn]

I would not be surprised if the One Planet tent was better built with better materials and a corresponding higher price tag than the Snowgum. Not sure where the Snowgum was made but One Planet would be made in Australia.

In fact One Planet still make them ... http://www.oneplanet.com.au/outdoor-ed- ... n-hut.html

[Moondog55]

Not quite the same tent.
Good but all poles are the same length, what made the original Caddis such a comfortable tent was the extra height and width in the middle.
I'm actually looking forward to playing with the tipi.
It's real shame that the local manufacturers do not understand the need for group tents for schools and such .
While I was at my fixed camp a lot of the school group instructors remarked on how they wished they had something similar to my tipi for their groups

[Moondog55]

Hmmm Was the previous high bidder ( $75-) a member here? A bid has been retracted and I am now the high bidder. I won't go higher than the $55- I set originally and at that price I would be happy. Even if the tent turns out to be a bit "saggy" it will still perform better than the PaddyMade.

[Moondog55]

Someone wanted that tent really badly; it sold for $170+. I don't think it was worth that much myself

[corvus]

Moondog ,
I have a Fairydown Snow Cave 4 season Tunnel tent that I no longer use (cannot believe that is what I carried for our Summer and Winter walks) that should be ideal for what you want however last time I checked it out it looked like the Fly was showing signs of age on the inside so when weather permits will pitch the Fly give it the hose sprinkler and let you know if it will fit the bill.
corvus

[Moondog55]

Is the Snowcave bigger than my Plateau??
I'm only after a winter back-up tent not something to carry

[corvus]

Three person but two happy
corvus

[Moondog55]

It can always be siliconed and for this purpose the extra weight won't be noticed.
Coolio

[corvus]

Is the Snowcave bigger than my Plateau??
I'm only after a winter back-up tent not something to carry

There is a photograph of the Snow Cave here viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1902&p=15956&hilit=tent+tarn#p15956
Which should give you an idea of its size,it weighs 3.5 KG.
corvus