ULWalkingPhil wrote:Could this be the death of the neoair as claimed?
I don't know. Reviewer claims its as comfortable as a bed. I am sus with these type of reviews that claim so much.
How could a 7cm mattress be as comfortable as a bed. Its all nonsense in my opinion. Similar reports are out on the NeoAir XLite. I find it a torture machine to sleep on. One of the worst sleeps ever. I couldn't wait to get out of bed to start walking so to repair my back. I will stick with my hammock, thank you very much.
http://www.keithfoskett.com/the-death-o ... #more-1947
Phil, have you tried the vertical baffle style air mats? I find them much more comfortable than the NeoAirs. Also the slighly stretchy nylon that Exped and most other manufacturers use gives the mat a springiness more akin to a mattress than the NeoAirs, so they do feel more like a bed rather than a piece of contoured steel.
I sometimes can't believe the ratings these manufacturers claim. It's like the STS Thermal Liners all over again. If someone actually went out and used on of these pads or those liners in -15C they'd be endangering themselves.
One reason I could see myself getting lightweight but virtually uninsulated mat would be to make my sleep system redundant against deflation. You could bring a lightweight CCF mat R rating of 2-3 to use underneath your air mattress which adds a bit of warmth and significant comfort, but would not leave you with no ground insulation should it fail. Also I use a large inflatable mat for comfort but really only need most of my insulation beneath my torso and upper legs so I could take a regular or even 3/4 length CCF mat. Hmmz...
Edit: In fact you could take 1 or 2 3mm to 8mm CCF mats for roughly 0.5 to 1.0R value each depending on the level of extra insulation you needed...