Sun 22 Jan, 2017 3:13 am
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 10:32 am
phenomenomenom wrote:Hi all,
Long time reader, first time poster here. I've never had reason to! Almost all my questions have already been answered at some point by you fabulous people.
It's been a while since I last went on a multi-day walk, but I've enjoyed the few I participated in. This year I'm getting back it, building up to do the famous Overland Track in November.
I'm hoping to buy right, buy once. What are your thoughts on this gear list? Since I'm in Queensland, I'm hoping to keep this kit suitable for conditions here.
Pack:Total: 2265g
- Aarn Featherlight Freedom (Large) // 1490g
- Aarn Photo-Regular front pockets // 734g
- Cuben Pack Cover // 41g
[They're expensive! I might try DIY one. It's just to keep wildlife out during side trips.]- Trekking Poles - Stuck between the Helinox TLA130, Black Diamond Distance FLZ, and PD Alpine Ergo Cork. I have no idea what I should be looking for in a pole. Never used one before! Any suggestions?
Tent:
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[*] TarpTent Stratospire 2 // 1260g . . .
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 12:44 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 1:02 pm
peregrinator wrote:When I read “I have no idea what I should be looking for in a pole. Never used one before!”, my initial response was: then why do you think you need poles? But of course, it was for the tent. If that’s the only reason, why not consider a different tent? There must be at least seventeen million other brands and models out there to choose from.
peregrinator wrote:I have an Aarn Effortless Rhythm (stupid name, brilliant pack) Large - 72L plus 12L pockets. For a week or so trip, I can’t see how I’d fit my load into a 57L + 12L pack.
peregrinator wrote:Oh, one other thing. You are spot on about the need for a wide-brimmed hat, but what has dignity got to do with it? More shade equals less melanoma, perhaps.
peregrinator wrote:If you are not doing the OLT until next November, perhaps you can try out some ideas by borrowing and/or hiring some gear. Don’t rush into any purchases because some great used stuff comes up on the forum at very fair prices.
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 1:28 pm
kitty wrote:Helinox poles are great. The ones you picked can change length, which is important for the tent you picked
kitty wrote:You might need to assess whether to get the FF or the NB (or the ER) only after you buy your other gear?
kitty wrote:What type of food are you planning to cook in your MSR Windburner?
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 1:55 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 2:25 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 3:37 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 3:58 pm
undercling-mike wrote:That's a detailed list!
undercling-mike wrote:I think the way to go would be a -2C quilt with the zip/drawcord footbox that can be fully opened.
undercling-mike wrote:Something like an Opinel #7 or #8...
undercling-mike wrote:I think some could be saved in the electronics
undercling-mike wrote:You can probably cut the first aid kit down somewhat, maybe try just using a ziplock bag for it.
undercling-mike wrote:On my recent walk in Tassie my friend and I both used 45L Exped lightning packs...
undercling-mike wrote:The Tasgear gaiters made by forum member Scottyk are also worth a look if you haven't already.
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 4:55 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 5:12 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 6:23 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 6:35 pm
Mark F wrote:A minor comment on the two water bottles. Ditch them or at least one of them and just use a 1.25 or 1.5 litre soft drink bottle - basically free and saves 130+ grams per bottle. .
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 6:53 pm
north-north-west wrote: . . . On the Overland you don't really need to carry more than 1 litre water as there are heaps of refill options - tanks, creeks, pools etc. . .
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 8:35 pm
[/quote]jdeks wrote:Personally, I would:
-Ditch the pack cover (unless the Arn packs aren't showerproof?)
-Not use an Arn pack.
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 8:40 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 8:41 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 9:20 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 10:27 pm
Sun 22 Jan, 2017 11:56 pm
kitty wrote:I wasnt going to suggest a lighter stove, actually something heavier but more versatile - the Primus Eta Express Spider Stove kit ...
north-north-west wrote:I can fit 14 days food and gear (including DSLR & lenses) into a small Load Limo...
Gusto wrote:1) Ditch the pack cover. How exactly will it help you with wildlife anyway??
Gusto wrote:Also, I would avoid trekking poles with a "Shock Absorbing" spring. I reckon they are just marketing junk. Of the Helinox range there are two poles I like, the LBB135 and the DL145.
Gusto wrote:4) Tents, have you considered the Double Moment or Scarp. I think both tents would hold up better in rough weather.
Gusto wrote:6) You already have two thermal tops. You don't need a mid layer if you make them long sleevedYou don't seem to be wearing a shirt or pants during the day. Did I miss something?
Gusto wrote:9) Turn off your phone and ditch the power bank. Unless you are planning to regularly use your phone as a gps or camera
Gusto wrote:7) Hut/Camp shoes. The skinners look interesting. I've never seen them before. Give them a go and tell the forum about them.
Mark F wrote:Ditch them or at least one of them and just use a 1.25 or 1.5 litre soft drink bottle - basically free and saves 130+ grams per bottle.
jdeks wrote:I would not do this. Bust your only water bottle and youre in real trouble. Loss of safety margin is not worth the weight saving.
jdeks wrote:-Not use an Arn pack.
-TEST the neo air sleeping pads before you buy. They are NARROW and some people just roll right off em. PM me if you like, can mail you one to test.
-Ditch the walking poles. Overrated. ....
... Find a stick
-Carry fewer clothes, and pack for the climate. Ditch the insocks, and the spare set of thermals.
-Ditch the gaiters...
- Ditch the kindle...
weeds wrote:Re: side track pack, so glad we had the light weight sea to summit back pack, ...
weeds wrote:Do you need boxers?
Do you need a razor?
Don't recon you need a compass on OLT or mirror and most packs seem to have a built in whistle.
Mon 23 Jan, 2017 5:20 am
Mon 23 Jan, 2017 5:34 am
Mon 23 Jan, 2017 7:39 am
Mon 23 Jan, 2017 8:26 am
phenomenomenom wrote:- May I ask why not? Sure, they look very... odd, but everyone who uses them seems to love them.
- Thanks for the offer! I actually already have a Neo Air Trekker and I absolutely love it. I take it travelling because it's often more comfy than hostel mattresses... It is 12cm wider but I think I'll cope. I'm a skinny bloke, only 65kg which is one reason why I'm trying to go as light as possible. The Trekker is 730g for R-3 in case anyone is wondering why I don't take it.
- Out of interest, what other mat would you recommend? It seems you have to gain a lot of weight to get a larger style mat.
- I'll try find a good stick to 'demo' a pole on my Feb walk to see how it goes.
- Sorry, I should have been more clear. I've got day/night sets of thermals, which seems to be the recommended setup by most. Are you saying differently?
- I totally understand reducing weight on the legs, but, I think I'd much rather have gaiters and not have to use them than not have them and wish I did.
- What does one need a leatherman on the trails? I have one and it weighs 244g. I'll have good knife, plus scissors in the first aid kit (21g). I can't see myself needing the pliers, bottle opener or file. Maybe the screwdriver would come in handy? I'm curious, do you have any field stories?
- I was actually thinking the same thing about the kindle. If I really have to read something (which I doubt), I can load ebooks onto my phone (which I'll be carrying for the city ends of this expedition). It can last an hour each night if needed.
Mon 23 Jan, 2017 10:54 am
phenomenomenom wrote:kitty wrote:I wasnt going to suggest a lighter stove, actually something heavier but more versatile - the Primus Eta Express Spider Stove kit ...
Thanks for the suggestion. That's one I haven't seen before. Aside from the weight, it looks really good! I don't see myself doing 'real cooking' on the trail. Is there another advantage I'm missing? I've gotta say, it's a lot cheaper which is a big plus!
Mon 23 Jan, 2017 10:18 pm
jdeks wrote:Main thing is spend a night on one BEFORE you buy. Happy to loan you either to test.
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 6:42 am
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 7:56 am
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 1:11 pm
Tue 24 Jan, 2017 7:26 pm
phenomenomenom wrote:jdeks wrote:Main thing is spend a night on one BEFORE you buy. Happy to loan you either to test.
Thanks! I'll take you up on that. Why did you switch? My Trekker is exactly the same width as your Exped. Now I think about it, the X-lite does seem narrow. But it is light...
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