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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Thu 15 Aug, 2013 4:34 pm

if they become less of an all round outdoor retailer and focus on gear, i'd predict their sales to drop and that they struggle to afford running physical shops, you cant compete with the likes of kathmandu if you're not going to match their range and pitch to the general population of outdoors people. back packers and tourists....
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Strider » Thu 15 Aug, 2013 4:35 pm

wayno wrote:he seems to want to show a commitment to being a technical company by making that statement but since he had only just taken teh job when he said it

teh strikes again! :lol:

It is common for new execs to made outlandish statements not long into a new role - presumeably they think it makes them appear more in control of a bad situation?
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby blacksheep » Thu 15 Aug, 2013 4:43 pm

Strider wrote:
wayno wrote:he seems to want to show a commitment to being a technical company by making that statement but since he had only just taken teh job when he said it

teh strikes again! :lol:

It is common for new execs to made outlandish statements not long into a new role - presumeably they think it makes them appear more in control of a bad situation?

or to curry favour with the audience. c'mon...this is obvious stuff

the same week the facebook page was changed to this image Image,
a little later they announced the search for models Image.
no, definitely not moving in any direction other than hardcore gear...
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Thu 15 Aug, 2013 5:02 pm

make people think they are a more technical company, people want to buy anything associated with "the more technical company" ? like some of the big sporting brands that make hard core sporting gear and bucket loads of casual gear....?
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby GPSGuided » Thu 15 Aug, 2013 5:08 pm

Didn't one of this forum's member recently receive an appointment as a Macpac Ambassador?
http://lotsafreshair.com/2013/07/29/hello-macpac/
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Gusto » Thu 15 Aug, 2013 5:58 pm

On a more positive note. Based upon web photos and information I actually think it's quite a sensible pack for macpac to add to it's range. As mentioned it has similar specs to an Exos. The Exos is a popular pack and liked by many. One difference may be in the size. Many of the Macpac packs I've seen are usually larger than other brands for the same literage.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby casey79 » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 11:09 am

Hi All

The tasman pack does have a hydration bladder pouch and hole for the hose.

See photos :-)
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 11:16 am

awesome, dude, looks like you've shot that in a showroom, the pack hasnt been unravelled properly, if you're afiliated with macpac, you should put that in your profile if you're involved with any organisations to do with the outdoors for the sake of openeness.

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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby casey79 » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 11:29 am

Yes I work at MP but Im not selling anything Im just showing that it has the bladder pouch.

Where I work is not relvent in this coment it was unbiased and all it showed was a feature that was being debated by people who have never seen the bag in real life. I thought I was helping you all out im sorry in future I will not interject.

In the long run the bag has a bladder pouch. End of story.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 11:31 am

yes if you work at MP you need to put that in your profile because you're affiliated with them... as per site rules.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 12:23 pm

your comments appreciated and very helpful. so no probs

you just put it in the "Associated Organisations" in your profile...
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Lindsay » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 3:22 pm

GPSGuided wrote:
wayno wrote:well that gives you so many options for hydration :shock:

Clearly a feature!

BTW, do other UL packs have dedicated hydration facilities? Never thought those hydration systems with all the heavy plumbing etc are consistent with the UL philosophy.


I have a Gossamer Gear Mariposa Plus that has a bladder sleeve, however the pack feels noticeably awkward and unbalanced when it is used, compared to its excellent balance and comfort without. I think it was an afterthought because so may people want this feature, even if the pack actually works better without it.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Strider » Fri 16 Aug, 2013 4:01 pm

Lindsay wrote:
GPSGuided wrote:
wayno wrote:well that gives you so many options for hydration :shock:

Clearly a feature!

BTW, do other UL packs have dedicated hydration facilities? Never thought those hydration systems with all the heavy plumbing etc are consistent with the UL philosophy.


I have a Gossamer Gear Mariposa Plus that has a bladder sleeve, however the pack feels noticeably awkward and unbalanced when it is used, compared to its excellent balance and comfort without. I think it was an afterthought because so may people want this feature, even if the pack actually works better without it.

+1 for my Golite Quest and Osprey Talon. Bladder pockets never seem to work well for me.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Avatar » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 2:35 pm

Macpac Clearance have the 1240g Amp Race 40 pack for $130. The size 3 may be 45l (?)
That's $140 less than the advertised new Tasman pack price for an extra 140g weight.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby KANANGRABOYD » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 3:11 pm

GPSGuided wrote:Didn't one of this forum's member recently receive an appointment as a Macpac Ambassador?
http://lotsafreshair.com/2013/07/29/hello-macpac/

Seriously, what are Macpac thinking?!
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Mark F » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 3:22 pm

I expect the new pack is a replacement for the Amp 40. I have an Amp 40 for longer trips when I am carrying more than about 8kg and really like it - still debating whether to remove the bladder pocket.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 3:26 pm

i doubt it, the amp series was designed for adventure racing, hence the generous outside pockets and use of lighter fabrics in places.
the tasman looks more like a run of the mill tramping pack design..
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Mark F » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 3:53 pm

Wayno - I based my assumption on the fact that the Amp 40 is no longer shown on the Macpac website so I assume discontinued. The Tasman is 140g lighter and about the same capacity. The Amp 25 and 12 are still there. May be there is an as yet unreleased pack that will fill in for the Amp 40. I just checked the web site and the Tasman is classified as a Trek pack rather than Endurance.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 4:05 pm

i think they might have dropped the amp 40 a while ago from the range... my guess was simply lack of demand,,
i've got a 35 litre lightweight pack they used to make and discontinued a long time ago without replacing it with anything similar, squeakiest pack i've ever owned.... possibly because of the neoprene waist belt moving around....
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby GPSGuided » Sun 18 Aug, 2013 7:25 pm

KANANGRABOYD wrote:Seriously, what are Macpac thinking?!

Are you jealous? ;)
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Lotsafreshair » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 8:08 am

KANANGRABOYD wrote:
GPSGuided wrote:Didn't one of this forum's member recently receive an appointment as a Macpac Ambassador?
http://lotsafreshair.com/2013/07/29/hello-macpac/

Seriously, what are Macpac thinking?!


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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Lotsafreshair » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 8:10 am

Just to let everyone know, I am in the middle of writing a new blog post of a gear review on this Tasman 45 pack.

I took it down to Ettrema/Morton NP over the long weekend and gave it a serious workout with thick scrub (classic Ettrema stuff), rock scrambling, dragging it through narrow rock slots and all the usual good stuff that Morton has to offer.

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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 8:57 am

Lotsafreshair wrote:I'm going to be posting it soon... standby for that one!

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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Joomy » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 5:53 pm

Lotsafreshair wrote:
KANANGRABOYD wrote:
GPSGuided wrote:Didn't one of this forum's member recently receive an appointment as a Macpac Ambassador?
http://lotsafreshair.com/2013/07/29/hello-macpac/

Seriously, what are Macpac thinking?!


Yep. That's me! It's all early days (for both Macpac and me), but one of the things that I found encouraging about the relationship is that they want me to be honest. If I don't like something about a product, I say so. If something is great, I say say.

I can't think of a single brand ambassador that hasn't said something along these lines. Not that I don't believe you but it's a bit of a cliche. Presumably they already know that you are enthusiastic about Macpac gear or they wouldn't have approached you for the role. And clearly they are confident that you will do your best to find the best points about their gear and that if something is not to your liking you'll be far less scathing about it than an impartial reviewer (i.e. people on this forum).
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 6:16 pm

see if ent will test macpac gear..... :twisted:
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 6:29 pm

Joomy wrote:I can't think of a single brand ambassador that hasn't said something along these lines. Not that I don't believe you but it's a bit of a cliche. Presumably they already know that you are enthusiastic about Macpac gear or they wouldn't have approached you for the role. And clearly they are confident that you will do your best to find the best points about their gear and that if something is not to your liking you'll be far less scathing about it than an impartial reviewer (i.e. people on this forum).

Joomy, with sceptical views like that, company marketing directors will never pick you to represent their company. ;)

Seriously, I think MacPac has found a good ambassador here. Lotsa is clearly a very good communicator and with positive and enthusiastic messages in her past videos. I can see how she can be an ideal candidate. Otherwise I agree, conflict of interest can exert subtle influences on anyone. As such, I am not a very good candidate either. :roll:
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 6:30 pm

wayno wrote:see if ent will test macpac gear..... :twisted:

Are you a stirrer? :lol:
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby wayno » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 6:40 pm

the thing is an ambassador uses the gear of the company they are an ambassador for. they arent going to have such a negative view that they arent going to use the gear, then they can't be an ambassador.... and why would you be scathing about a product you are reviewing and can get for a discount or for free.... you cant really rely on a totally objective review...
and how free are they to use as many rival products as they like? or are they using the sponsors product because they cant afford to pay full price for another brand?
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 15 Oct, 2013 7:03 pm

Fact is, not too different to most consumers who have limited experience and are easily influenced by subjective parameters. For a start, it takes a brave person to fully admit one's poor choice over a triple to quadruple figure purchase. Ambassadors are marketing tools and nothing wrong with that. Powers to anyone who has the goods to be chosen.
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Re: macpacs new lightweight tramping pack...

Postby Lotsafreshair » Mon 28 Oct, 2013 10:04 am

OK. Here it is then...

My review of the Macpac Tasman 45.

http://lotsafreshair.com/2013/10/28/gear-review-macpac-tasman-45/
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