Cuben Fiber Tent

[gbedford]

I have no intention of being rude but Fiber is spelt Fibre in Australia. Personally I don't think we are the 51st state of the United States of America yet. I would like to think we can remain as such but it does take a little effort.

Perhaps I am out of date and most Austalians would be happy to affiliate, perhaps like Puerto Rico. If that does happen I might have to emmigrate. But where, Canada?

[Strider]

I have no intention of being rude but Fiber is spelt Fibre in Australia. Personally I don't think we are the 51st state of the United States of America yet. I would like to think we can remain as such but it does take a little effort.

Perhaps I am out of date and most Austalians would be happy to affiliate, perhaps like Puerto Rico. If that does happen I might have to emmigrate. But where, Canada?

I believe Cuben Fiber is a product developed by Cubic Technology Corporation.

http://www.cubictechnology.com/index.htm

[Onestepmore]

I have no intention of being rude but Fiber is spelt Fibre in Australia. Personally I don't think we are the 51st state of the United States of America yet. I would like to think we can remain as such but it does take a little effort.

Perhaps I am out of date and most Austalians would be happy to affiliate, perhaps like Puerto Rico. If that does happen I might have to emmigrate. But where, Canada?

Ummmm....do you mean 'emigrate'?

[gbedford]

I believe Cuben Fiber is a product developed by Cubic Technology Corporation.

Ah yes, I forgot about that interesting mixture of commerce and the law. Can't argue with that.

Yes emigrate is the correct spelling. That is what happens when you rattle off a message to quickly.

Cheers,
Gordon

[ULWalkingPhil]

Scroll down on the link for Keith Fosketts views on cuben fiber

http://keithfoskett.com/blog

well. This is news to me. In this report he says silnylon is more UV resistance than Cuben FibEr. From what i have read, its the opposite.

[ULWalkingPhil]

Scroll down on the link for Keith Fosketts views on cuben fiber

http://keithfoskett.com/blog

well. This is news to me. In this report he says silnylon is more UV resistance than Cuben FibEr. From what i have read, its the opposite.

According to Hilleberg, this is the reason they made there tents with the chosen fabric, as the UV light will start to deteriorate this fabric, having the Hilleberg tents made of high strength fabric from the start, Hilleberg tents are assured of the 5-season rating as they age.

[ULWalkingPhil]

Sounds very exciting Phil and Evan - almost like proud parents gestating a baby! Make sure we gets lots of 'new family addition' photos. Your previous tent photos have ben very interesting and informative.

I've been following these ligtweight tent threads with interest
I confess I have made an impulse buy.....was a bargain i couldn't resist

A brand new HMD Echo II tarp shelter system - $326.22 plus US$21 postage
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221140817728 ... 1439.l2649
Usual RRP from Hyperlight Mountain Designs website is $595 plus international postage
http://www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/hi ... ystem.html
Mind you, I had to get up at 4.30 am for the final bidding

When it arrives and I have a play, do people want pics?

thats a good buy. You got yourself a bargain there. If your not happy with it and ever want to sell, can i have first option to purchase?

[Strider]

Scroll down on the link for Keith Fosketts views on cuben fiber

http://keithfoskett.com/blog

well. This is news to me. In this report he says silnylon is more UV resistance than Cuben FibEr. From what i have read, its the opposite.

According to Hilleberg, this is the reason they made there tents with the chosen fabric, as the UV light will start to deteriorate this fabric, having the Hilleberg tents made of high strength fabric from the start, Hilleberg tents are assured of the 5-season rating as they age.

Haven't seen many America's Cup sails made from silnylon either...

[ULWalkingPhil]

[quote="etrangere"]Scroll down on the link for Keith Fosketts views on cuben fiber

http://keithfoskett.com/blog

well. This is news to me. In this report he says silnylon is more UV resistance than Cuben FibEr. From what i have read, its the opposite.

According to Hilleberg, this is the reason they made there tents with the chosen fabric, as the UV light will start to deteriorate this fabric, having the Hilleberg tents made of high strength fabric from the start, Hilleberg tents are assured of the 5-season rating as they age.

Haven't seen many America's Cup sails made from silnylon either...[/quote]


No, it stretches to much. The worst thing you could have on a sailing boat.

[Strider]

No, it stretches to much. The worst thing you could have on a sailing boat.

I would argue that the worst thing you could have on a boat is a sail

[ULWalkingPhil]

No, it stretches to much. The worst thing you could have on a sailing boat.

I would argue that the worst thing you could have on a boat is a sail

lol. Im a bit fond of sailing boats, i used to race competitively many years ago. Competed in some major events, as high as 10th in world titles back in 1987

[cams]

That article doesn't mention that silnylon also keeps stretching when it gets wet making that lovely taught pitch saggy.
The biggest unknown has probably been long term effects of joining methods etc... But as he mentions it has been used by cottage gear manufacturers for quite a few years now and if it's still around it must be holding up ok.

[Franco]

"That article doesn't mention that silnylon also keeps stretching when it gets wet making that lovely taught pitch saggy.'

The reason why is very simple ; it doesn't...
It stretches but it doesn't keep stretching* and in fact that is one of the main advantages of silnyon over Cuben Fiber as both Ryan Jordan (BPL tarp report ) and Chris Thousand (Trailstar review) point out.
Hint : set it taut once the fabric has stretched. It will remain taut...

[ULWalkingPhil]

I always take the tension of during the day, particularly if the sun is out. Have you noticed how much tension there is on silnylon when the sun comes out.

I don't know if this tightness is good or not, but I've never taken the chance with silnylon.
Cuben i just set once and forget about it.

[forest]

Cuben i just set once and forget about it.

That's why I love Cuben

[ULWalkingPhil]

My new Cuben Fiber Shelter is progressing well. Evan from Terra Rosa Gear is doing an awesome job on my new lightweight shelter.

The outer is almost complete, following image is shown with the shelter erected with only 4 pegs.
Storm flap cover on the zip and panel pull outs to be added. The Cuben Fiber is a 0.74oz Olive Green in colour.

[ULWalkingPhil]

Sounds very exciting Phil and Evan - almost like proud parents gestating a baby! Make sure we gets lots of 'new family addition' photos. Your previous tent photos have ben very interesting and informative.

I've been following these ligtweight tent threads with interest
I confess I have made an impulse buy.....was a bargain i couldn't resist

A brand new HMD Echo II tarp shelter system - $326.22 plus US$21 postage
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221140817728 ... 1439.l2649
Usual RRP from Hyperlight Mountain Designs website is $595 plus international postage
http://www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/hi ... ystem.html
Mind you, I had to get up at 4.30 am for the final bidding

When it arrives and I have a play, do people want pics?

Hi, Have you received your Echo Tent?

[Mountain Rocket]

My new Cuben Fiber Shelter is progressing well. Evan from Terra Rosa Gear is doing an awesome job on my new lightweight shelter.

Looking good Philip. It is cool to see Evan working with cuben.
Crack the whip a bit more. I want Evan to make me some gaiters!

[quicky]

My new Cuben Fiber Shelter is progressing well. Evan from Terra Rosa Gear is doing an awesome job on my new lightweight shelter.

The outer is almost complete, following image is shown with the shelter erected with only 4 pegs.
Storm flap cover on the zip and panel pull outs to be added. The Cuben Fiber is a 0.74oz Olive Green in colour.

Looking great!

[ULWalkingPhil]

Hows this for weight saving? What you see in the image is 275 grams.

[photohiker]

Lighter than a cuben Trailstar, so not bad at all.

Does that include an inner?

[ULWalkingPhil]

Lighter than a cuben Trailstar, so not bad at all.

Does that include an inner?

No. Weight does not include a inner. There is a few extras that need to be added, Storm flap over zip and a few panel pullouts. Which will add a few grams to the weight.

Looks like it will be a lot lighter than expected, which is great.

In the end this should be a very sturdy lightweight system. Ive since purchased a neoair xlite in the regular size to match with this shelter and a expid air pillow as well as one of those instaflator for pumping up the xlite.

Completed shelter is apx 2 weeks away.

[Franco]

Do you have the dimensions ?

[ULWalkingPhil]

Do you have the dimensions ?

Outer Shelter: 135 high x155 wide x 270 long (awesome amount of room)

and for the inner tent:
Matching 135 height x 75 wide x 265 long

[ULWalkingPhil]

Looking at the dimensions for the Inner, I'm contemplating on asking Evan if he could make it a bit shorter on the length and height. Evan is going up the sides of the inner with the cuben by 20cm.

I can see a potential condensation issue here, with the netting so close to the outer, particularly if it's touching.

[Strider]

I can see a potential condensation issue here, with the netting so close to the outer, particularly if it's touching.

Why are the outer and inner the same height? This would mean they are in direct contact at the top.

[photohiker]

Do you have the dimensions ?

Outer Shelter: 135 high x155 wide x 270 long (awesome amount of room)

and for the inner tent:
Matching 135 height x 75 wide x 265 long

Aha. So the longside of the tent profile forms an Isosceles triangle with a 45° at each corner. Makes for good internal height, a 185cm bod should have about 42cm height at each end.

I'd definitely have the inner spaced from the fly - if the gap is too small, wind and pitch might leave them in contact.

[Franco]

This is what it looks like with me inside using your fly dimensions.

The first line you see on the left (sort of white) is the corner to apex line, the red one behind it is from the middle (where the zip would be) to the apex.
With an inner inside that I would be pushing it against the fly.
I am 172cm and the mat is not fully inflated
None of my business but yes the inner is too large for that fly.
Hint :walls cave inwards, yes even with Cuben.

[ULWalkingPhil]

This is what it looks like with me inside using your fly dimensions.

The first line you see on the left (sort of white) is the corner to apex line, the red one behind it is from the middle (where the zip would be) to the apex.
With an inner inside that I would be pushing it against the fly.
I am 172cm and the mat is not fully inflated
None of my business but yes the inner is too large for that fly.
Hint :walls cave inwards, yes even with Cuben.

Thanks Franco, I appreciate the time you have spent setting this up for me.

I've emailed Evan to suggest making the inner a bit smaller.

[Nuts]

If the inner tent has cuben lower walls you may get that height back by raising the fly? I'd imagine you want the gap (and airflow) in most situations.
While the gap (between fly/inner) is probably important i'd be wanting to keep as much internal space as possible. Personally i'd want ample space without/before needing mid panel guy points to maintain it. You could also pitch the fly on an angle (ie more gap on the door side).