Bushwalk Australia

With so many topics about stoves I'm even more confused I'm after a stove that will work in all conditions, I like the idea of gas as it's easy to use, most will simmer and I have read that if you invert the canister you can use then in sub zero temperatures. Have I understood this correctly?

Can someone just point me to the models from MSR, Primus, Otimus etc that are gas stoves that will invert the canister for cold conditions. I guess cold is Vic and Tas and NZ conditions in Winter.

I'm really trying to find a stove that will work in all seasons all conditions.

Thanks

I mainly use 3 msr stoves.
The msr reactor is a upright canister stove with its built in regulator will run down to about - 6
If that's not good enough the msr wind pro 2 and universal will run down to -18 in inverted mode.
The universal stove also runs on shellite and kero.

wildernesswanderer wrote:With so many topics about stoves I'm even more confused I'm after a stove that will work in all conditions, I like the idea of gas as it's easy to use, most will simmer and I have read that if you invert the canister you can use then in sub zero temperatures. Have I understood this correctly?

Can someone just point me to the models from MSR, Primus, Otimus etc that are gas stoves that will invert the canister for cold conditions. I guess cold is Vic and Tas and NZ conditions in Winter.

I'm really trying to find a stove that will work in all seasons all conditions.

Thanks

Big ask from many stove "freaks"( oh sorry enthusiasts )
A Couple I own use and have worked well in all conditions in Tasmania have been the cheap BL100-5 the not so cheap Kovea Camp -4 KB-0211 and my favorite at the moment the Fire Maple FMS 100T and I have found that Elemental branded gas works best for my needs,you will need to keep your gas warm and insulate the cannister if using in the snow

Hi wildernesswanderer,

My 5cents worth...

Fire Maple 118
Primus Gravity
Primus Spider
Edelrid Opilio

All are remote canister, all with pre-heat tube, all canister inverters, all are faultless stoves.....
The Fire maple & Gravity have wider burner heads so more suited to wide/ shallow pots.
Spider & Opilio have bunsen burner heads suited to narrow/taller pots.

And since a picture paints a thousand words.....note the different head sizes & shapes.
Top Left is the Opilio..........Top Right is the Spider
Bottom Left is the FM 117 & 118 combo(118 is a all stainless model just imagine it all silvery & shiny)........Bottom Right is the Gravity.



Its a personal thing, but I like the Opilio out of that bunch.
I also love my FM 117t & 118 combined but that's already covered on another thread & doesn't really help you here......

I'm sure others will chip in with their favourites.....there's a awful lot of very sick stove puppies out there wanderering the bush.
Me included....

Jetboil canister works in all conditions either standing up right or in a remote setup. I have used it on nordic trails at Perisher, backcountry camping around Mt Stirling in Vic, and on the OT in Tassie.

I am now using Trangia, which also works in all conditions and is cheaper if you hike frequently (based on ongoing fuel costs). Trangia bottles can be aired dry and taken empty when flying, which does not apply to gas cans which are forbidden on planes.

ofuros wrote:Hi wildernesswanderer,

My 5cents worth...

Fire Maple 118
Primus Gravity
Primus Spider
Edelrid Opilio

All are remote canister, all with pre-heat tube, all canister inverters, all are faultless stoves.....
The Fire maple & Gravity have wider burner heads so more suited to wide/ shallow pots.
Spider & Opilio have bunsen burner heads suited to narrow/taller pots.

And since a picture paints a thousand words.....note the different head sizes & shapes.
Top Left is the Opilio..........Top Right is the Spider
Bottom Left is the FM 117 & 118 combo(118 is a all stainless model just imagine it all silvery & shiny)........Bottom Right is the Gravity.



Its a personal thing, but I like the Opilio out of that bunch.
I also love my FM 117t & 118 combined but that's already covered on another thread & doesn't really help you here......

I'm sure others will chip in with their favourites.....there's a awful lot of very sick stove puppies out there wanderering the bush.
Me included....

Love your collection only wish I was not an OAP with very limited income now or I would add an Olipio to my collection
corvus

Hi Ofuros

You have stolen two of my stoves! My favorite is the Gravity simply as it has a nice broad flame. The Spider is nice and light but flame as mentioned rather concentrated. The Spider head appears to be used in the ETA Primus system and the big Jetboil system.

The Kovea Moonwalker had a good fan club. The question is are you after a system, stove pots, or just stove? Also the number of people and style of cooking. The answers to these questions will govern what is best suitable.

Cheers

corvus wrote:Love your collection only wish I was not an OAP with very limited income now or I would add an Olipio to my collection
corvus

Hi corvus,
I'm heading towards that age at a fast rate of knots myself.....if only there was a pause button.

This will be my first hiking stove, cooking for two and just looking at stove at the moment, been also thinking of a multi fuel. Pots and cookware I'll get after.

Thanks

Hi

I have the ETA Primus mult-fuel system and frankly once the play time past I swung it into gas and forgot about other fuels. Unless you are up high and cold something like a Jetboil will work but they are really only suitable for boil water type meals as are most stoves with the narrow burner. The Gravity has a lovely wide burner but this means more gas is used in my experience. You now have a range of flux ring pots that are great on speed of water boiling and gas efficiency but as Tony pointed out a few time their extra weight means they are heavier in total until past day five or greater. The only real trouble with the Primus Gravity is the newer model is very large due to the change in pre-heater arrangement so will not fit withing many pots.

Cheers