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Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec, 2012 2:15 pm
by Tmun
I've had problems with 2 sets or new Scarpa boots delaminating in the last 6 months. Has anyone else experienced problems with Scarpas? My first set of Scarpa Nangpa La boots lost the soul of the right boot in Nepal. I glued it up with McNett Field Repair and made it throught the trek okay. My replacement Scarpas let water in at the toe of the right boot on a recent Overland Track walk. We had snow. Nice but cold toes! Don't yet know whether Scarpa will do the honourable thing.... What's going on? I am very much aware of how you treat boots properly so they don't have problems and I adhere to best practice. But Scarpas don't appear to be very good quality anymore. Your thoughts, especially on what my next purchase of (non-Scarpa) boots should be?

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Wed 12 Dec, 2012 3:11 pm
by Bluegum Mic
I've never had any problems with mine but earlier in the year a guy in my bushwalking club had a pair (both shoes) that on their second walk the soles were coming away. I told him to take them straight back as neither walk had been challenging (they still looked pretty new). I figured they had a glue fault

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Thu 13 Dec, 2012 10:10 am
by Rob A
Theres a thread here.

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec, 2012 1:39 pm
by Tmun
I reckon you're right, its a glue problem. I'll know in the New Year whether Scarpa Australia will replace, repair or just return mine. Anyway I've gone off the brand.

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec, 2012 1:43 pm
by Rob A
Buy the "Shoe Goo". It happens to more than just the scarpa brand.

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Sun 16 Dec, 2012 5:45 pm
by nq111
I have seen this a lot - on scarpas and others, from about 20yrs ago onwards. When i had full leather boots i searched for the old style norwegian welt specifically because of this issue.

The newer 'dry' treated leather / leather composites don't seem* as prone (*qualified by limited sample).

Someone told me once that snowseal causes issues with the modern glues - anyone able to further that as b@#$!#%t or not?

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Sun 16 Dec, 2012 7:41 pm
by north-north-west
nq111 wrote:Someone told me once that snowseal causes issues with the modern glues - anyone able to further that as b@#$!#%t or not?

My old Asolos have absorbed so much snoseal they weight about 200g more than the new ones. Each. The soles have worn out - they seriously need a retread - but there's no delamination.

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Tue 18 Dec, 2012 5:16 pm
by nq111
north-north-west wrote: My old Asolos have absorbed so much snoseal they weight about 200g more than the new ones. Each. The soles have worn out - they seriously need a retread - but there's no delamination.


Ok - so we have unsubstantiated rumour vs sample of one :)

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec, 2012 4:47 am
by slparker
Waddayawant NQ? Scholarly discussion on bushwalk.com? Unsubstantiated rumour and opinion is the stuff of this forum.

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Wed 19 Dec, 2012 7:32 pm
by nq111
slparker wrote:Waddayawant NQ? Scholarly discussion on bushwalk.com? Unsubstantiated rumour and opinion is the stuff of this forum.


True - maybe I sounded a bit harsh.

I remain unconvinced by the rumour and by north-north-west's experience (though i don't discount it). At least now I have some further evidence to add to considerations.

I guess I am tough to convince :)

Re: Scarpas delaminating

PostPosted: Fri 21 Dec, 2012 1:12 am
by slparker
Fair enough...
I've never had scarpas fall to bits but i had a pair of Raichles not exactly delaminate, more crumble, earlier this year, I reckon it was a heat related issue destroying the softer midsole, same thing happened to aair of rossi's in the mid 90s. The cushioning between footbed and rubber sole just crumbled away. I think boots are almost disposable now (after a couple of years in a hot summer) unless you get Norwegian welted jobs or something really substantial, like scarpas or something similar.