Sleeping bag- Sea to Summit Talus 1

[noakbourke]

Hi there,

I am going overseas to Ecuador in about 30days and am looking to buy a sleeping bag.
I need a sleeping bag that is about season 3/4 or is -5 degrees Celsius.

I have found the Sea To Summit Talus 1 and am interested in buying it, but before I do, I want to make sure it will keep me warm and is a good bag.

Can any of you who have got this bag give me what you think.

Thank-you very much

[radson]

Im hoping to take the Talus to Tasmania next month. I have the S2S Alpine III which I used in Nepal and Pakistan. I am not sure if its relevant but I am 6 ft and the regular S2S was too small for me.

[noakbourke]

thanks radson. I'll keep that in mind.....I don't think size will be an issue.

[roysta]

If you're hell bent on STS and personally they're not on my list of bags to buy, I would step up to the Traverse level for Ecuador.
What are you planning to do there?

[noakbourke]

i'm hiking up mt Cotopaxi, staying Quito, trekking through the amazon and going to the Galapagos Islands.
Ok I'll keep that in mind.

[photonaturally]

If you're hell bent on STS and personally they're not on my list of bags to buy, I would step up to the Traverse level for Ecuador.
What are you planning to do there?

Can you say why you do not favour sts bags?

[roysta]

Can you say why you do not favour sts bags?

Because specs-wise there are several brands that do it much better for me in the activities I'm involved in.
Brands like Feathered Friends and Western Mountaineering.

[Miyata610]

Because specs-wise there are several brands that do it much better for me in the activities I'm involved in.
Brands like Feathered Friends and Western Mountaineering.

The two major brands that don't use EN ratings. Making it impossible to compare specs with other bags. Or at least making it difficult. We can't really compare their bags using their temperature ratings, it becomes necessary to compare them on down quality (and US standards for loft seem to differ from European standards) and quantity, and design.

[roysta]

Because specs-wise there are several brands that do it much better for me in the activities I'm involved in.
Brands like Feathered Friends and Western Mountaineering.

The two major brands that don't use EN ratings. Making it impossible to compare specs with other bags. Or at least making it difficult.

Sure, it probably would be nice for some if both companies embraced EN, but despite that I think anyone in here that has a bag(s) from either of these American companies will testify to their worthiness, I certainly can.
i.e. the FF Snowbunting (-17 & 1.3kgs) and WM Versalite (-12 & 920g) quality plus, 850+ goose down and great warmth to weight ratio.
I should also throw in another bag with the two above, the Marmot Plasma 15 (-9 & 850g)900 goose down.

[GPSGuided]

Just came across this in Paddy Pallin on Kent St (Sydney). $220 after 50% mark down.

[Joomy]

Just came across this in Paddy Pallin on Kent St (Sydney). $220 after 50% mark down.

At that price they are excellent value.

As far as EN ratings go, you can fairly accurately judge a bag's warmth if you know its cut and fill weight -- just compare WM bags to Rab to Feathered Friends and you'll see they all broadly match up with each other. Plus criticising WM for not using EN ratings is a little unhelpful since their quoted temps are actually more conservative than the EN ratings (some of their bags do come with EN rating information, they just don't list them on their website). For example they rate the Ultralite at -7C but the EN rating is -9C.

[wayno]

en ratings are an average guide, a comfort level could have one person sweating and another cold

[wayno]

en ratings are an average guide, a comfort level could have one person sweating and another cold

[icefest]

The best thing about EN ratings is the standard testing, that way, if you know you can take a 1 deg bag (men's, comfort) down to -3, then you can extrapolate to others temperatures. It also means that you can directly compare bags.

Comfort guides are not standardized and could vary by several degrees.