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useful smartphone apps

Postby wayno » Thu 21 Nov, 2013 3:59 am

If someone had told you ten years ago that you'd be able to wonder across the hills carrying a mini-computer that would work as a GPS unit with OS maps on it, could identify distant peaks and take a labelled photo of them into the bargain and could automatically generate a message telling the local rescue services your exact location, you'd have been forgiven for being utterly dubious.

But there are apps out there that can do all that and more. Here's our pick of the top smartphone apps with an outdoor bias.

http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/outdoor-fe ... 11798.html
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Re: useful smartphone apps

Postby icefest » Thu 21 Nov, 2013 6:48 am

Just a heads up for the non-fanbois; this only has apple iphone apps.
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Postby GPSGuided » Thu 21 Nov, 2013 8:17 am

I hate in-app purchases. ;)
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Postby roysta » Thu 21 Nov, 2013 11:37 am

Good stuff Wayne, as you mentioned, they are some of the top ones, but there are certainly heaps more and I for one, are loving 'em.
There are many purists around who poo poo a GPS, so I wonder what they make of all this?
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Re: useful smartphone apps

Postby nlt82 » Sat 23 Nov, 2013 3:43 pm

How do people go using apps when out in the bush? Smart phones are an amazing bit of technology. My only issue is the battery life. If I use my ###### on a hike it would only be for limited periods to preserve the battery life. And I wouldn't rely on the phone for anything critical like maps or GPS. What do others do? Take spare batteries or solar chargers? Would love to make better use of my phone when in the outdoors. Just can't rely on the battery life.

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Postby GPSGuided » Sat 23 Nov, 2013 4:00 pm

Solar charger/reserve battery setup. No alternatives.
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Re: useful smartphone apps

Postby Kingsleythelost » Sun 24 Nov, 2013 6:05 am

Ive started to use my I-thing as a GPS because i carried it anyway. The problem as you mention is the battery life. There are tricks you can do to preserve battery life ive got my I-thing to last 3 full days and still have 20% by doing the following.

1. Download your fav software
2. Download the maps for the area.
3. Turn the I-thing off then on (cycle)
4. Dont unlock the Sim when it restarts this removes all communications with the Cell towers.
5. Turn off your Wifi and Bluetooth.
6. Start your app then off you go.

This method uses about 20-40% per day depending on how much screen time and other apps you use.

I still turn off when im not travelling and night, but find it great for taking photos/video and a GPS.

If you own a Sam''''ung you can do it much easier by getting your software in line then going to airoplane mode the GPS still works.

Any longer you will need to look at a solar charger, ive never heard good things about them yet or a charger battery but they are a bit heavy as they tend to use NICAD batteries big and heavy. If you can find a lithium polymer backup solution it would be nice and light...(hmm i might make one myself) i have a stack sitting around from when i flew RC planes :) I just need to regulate the voltage to 12v.
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Re: useful smartphone apps

Postby nlt82 » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 8:07 am

Some good advice. Makes the list of apps more useful. Had a funny thought when I was reading the response. When I'm asked why I enjoy going bush my response often includes switching off and getting away from our electronic world. Yet I'm asking how I can improve my electronic access while trying to escape it. Scary? Sad? Or just the way it is?
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Postby perfectlydark » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 10:44 am

I can confirm on my galaxy s4 airplane mode also disables gps. Which is bizarre. Maybe a rooted phone can make this possible?
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Re: useful smartphone apps

Postby photohiker » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 11:38 am

The issue with GPS in airplane mode is that some airlines ban GPS use in flight.

Maybe airplane mode should have an airline selector? :)
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Postby GPSGuided » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 12:00 pm

Does Airplane Mode disables the GPS on the iPhone? I always thought it did and never bothered to investigate. However, one can still activate Wifi services after activating Airplane Mode. Otherwise, I have used my Garmin GPS on many commercial flights without interferences from the cabin staff. Once one of the UA FA actually got interested and asked me to show her our current position and speed etc.
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Postby Kingsleythelost » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 12:37 pm

There’s a guy I walk with who uses a samhung think it’s an S3 and he can run airplane mode no problems with a GPS. I did a walk with him 6 weeks back and was so impressed I had to do it with my I-thing. After much research I found the method above which works the same but not quite as elegant.

I did a reasonable amount of research into why they disabled it and its nothing to do with rules or regulations only what apple see fit.

That’s interesting that the i-thing you can still enable Wi-Fi and Bluetooth in airplane mode. Maybe it’s an update I was fairly sure in the ios 6 they didn’t allow that.
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Postby Kingsleythelost » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 12:50 pm

perfectlydark wrote:I can confirm on my galaxy s4 airplane mode also disables gps. Which is bizarre. Maybe a rooted phone can make this possible?



Have you tried turning GPS on after it gets disabled? just a thought http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... ?t=1857147

I also found this article from apple http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1355 it talks about airplane mode
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Postby GPSGuided » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 12:55 pm

There are discussion threads (by date) on the Internet that Wifi activation under Airplane Mode pre-dates iOS7. I think it makes sense as Wifi services on commercial aircrafts have been available for quite a while now (not that I have bothered with those over-priced services). Guess the main objective from Apple is to shut down the mobile radio services, and that's not negotiable under Airplane Mode.

Just tried my iPhone 5S (iOS 7.0.4), GPS did not work under MotionX-GPS/Maps/TomTom apps when Airplane Mode is fully activated. It was left under open sky for 3 minutes and no lock on was noted. Have not tried with Wifi activated under Airplane Mode as I can't get out of Wifi coverage conveniently just now.
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Postby photohiker » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 1:05 pm

Yes, IOS airplane mode deactivates GPS has done since forever. WiFi and BT re-activation has been possible under airplane mode for some time, not just the latest version of IOS.

Apple would make a decision based on convenience to their customers, just as Samsung has. There may be regulations somewhere, but I doubt it.
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Postby Kingsleythelost » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 1:26 pm

Interesting articles http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/gpsrfi.htm Theres no rules from the FAA but airlines have banned them, you have to live by the rules they set.
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Re: useful smartphone apps

Postby David M » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 1:32 pm

I have used PDF Maps from Avenza on my iPhone. It lets you download both free and paid for PDF maps to your phone. I have downloaded a number of maps from Parks Victoria. The App is free. also available for 'droid. The advantage of the App is you can have maps stored in your device and don't need a data connection.
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Postby perfectlydark » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 1:55 pm

David M wrote:I have used PDF Maps from Avenza on my iPhone. It lets you download both free and paid for PDF maps to your phone. I have downloaded a number of maps from Parks Victoria. The App is free. also available for 'droid. The advantage of the App is you can have maps stored in your device and don't need a data connection.

I use Backcountry navigator, where you can save your map tiles for offline use. Paid for the full version (about $10) and worth it.

Kingsley I havnt looked much into it, juat feild tested and found I couldnt run gps in flight mode (including turning gps on while already in flight mode). Im sure theres a fix but havnt researched it
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Postby Kingsleythelost » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 3:06 pm

perfectlydark wrote:I use Backcountry navigator, where you can save your map tiles for offline use. Paid for the full version (about $10) and worth it.

Kingsley I havnt looked much into it, juat feild tested and found I couldnt run gps in flight mode (including turning gps on while already in flight mode). Im sure theres a fix but havnt researched it


That was the same one my mate uses i wish the i-thing had the same software...Im currently using everytrail paid(10$) so you can download the map, but not entirely happy.

I did a bit of research for the S4 it doesnt look good...sry! but maybe there is a work around similar to what us I-thing users have to do. Turn everything off except the GPS. In the end its Just a way to save batteries unless you happen to be on a plane!
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Re: useful smartphone apps

Postby icefest » Mon 25 Nov, 2013 10:57 pm

If you root your android phone you can change what gets disabled by airplane mode.
Mine disables all except data as I use it for checking the weather.
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