theMISSIONARY wrote:well they all stink
na i want something im not going to freeze in up near Ossa in Winter

currently im using an old army bag........its well freezing
Quality of the bag! any problems with the mountain design bags that sort of thing just peoples opinions........and yes i'm a cheap *&%$#!

so cost is always there

As someone said before, sleeping bags are a very individual thing, but I'll share my experience with the MD Ultra 700. It was rated to minus 3 (limit of comfort), but I was freezing in the huts on the Overland Track when the mercury hit -5 (I had a good Exped sleeping mat as well, and a Thermolite Reactor Extreme liner)....but I have realized I am a cold sleeper. In my opinion the bags temperature rating is very optimistic, and I think it was manufactured before the European Ratings started to be applied to MD and Kathmandu sleeping bags. For value for money, I would look at Black Wolf sleeping bags- their mission statement is to produce good quality gear without the hi-tec price tag

When you look at a bag to purchase though, don't look at the temperature rating as much how much down it actually has in it. That's a very reliable indicator of warmth. Anyway, good luck, and if you have the money, Macpac is having an Easter sale still, and their very good quality sleeping bags are 40-50% off I think.
Cheers,
Marty