Sleeping Bag/Quilt Inner-lining feel.

[laciek]

Firstly I'd just like to say thanks to all the contributors on this forum. I have been stalking around for the last couple of weeks trying to work out what gear I need to buy for a 7week trip (mostly tramping) through NZ this coming summer, and the information I have found here has been second to none. I have already purchased a Stratospire 2 and Thermarest Prolite Plus

After lots of searching through the forums I think I may have a somewhat unique query:

I am hyper-sensitive to the feel of materials, especially when I sleep. When I go travelling I take my own cotton sheets to Hostels as I cannot sleep on any sheets that are a polyester blend, they feel really 'clingy'. Thus, my dilemma with Bags/Quilts.

As a rule of thumb, generally, the 'shinier' the material to look at, the less comfortable I find it. I think it may have something to do with static build up???

I really had my heart set on getting a quilt, maybe a Jacks'R'Better Sierra Sniveller or an EE Revelation (I also sleep super hot so quilts seem to be the best option), but as I cannot try these out in Aus I am afraid of ordering them without knowing if I can stand the inner-lining. So far the sleeping bag that I like the feel of is the S2S Trek I, according to the website this material is "40D soft touch Nylon, 310T
high density down proof weave, 34 fillament soft touch hand feel". I don't think this material is available in any other sleep system let alone a quilt

If anyone has any comments on how any of their bags/quilts feel, or if anyone has suggestions on a retailer or type of material I might like, or even how I might be able to find out the 'feel' of more materials I would really appreciate it.

Thanks again!!!

[corvus]

You may still be able to purchase cotton s/b liners however I would recommend a pure Silk one warm and luxurious

[Fr3d]

I've recently bought two sleeping bags in the last few months, been upgrading a lot (all) of my equipment. Like you i'm a very hot sleeper. I personally don't feel uncomfortable with many fabrics unless they are hard & scratchy, but I can't stand fabrics that stick to my skin & leave me feeling constricted. That feeling tends to make me flip out.

Bag #1 - Marmot Nanoweave 55 http://www.wildearth.com.au/buy/marmot- ... 1105-Flint
Says it's 100% polyester taffeta, can't say i've really noticed how it feels against the skin. Quite soft, not sticky. Had a nap in it at home wearing shorts & tshirt I didn't feel uncomfortable against the fabric. When I used it in the field had a thin silk liner and was wearing thermals (long sleeves, pants, thin socks, thin balaclava) so had minimal contact.

Bag is on the small size for me really. The link above only has a regular size (up to 183cm) for sale but a large would suit me better, im 186cm. Just means it's a little short and having the hood fully zipped up will leave me way too constricted for my liking. Bag is quite narrow as well. However its my warm weather bag so won't be doing that. Have slept on a bench outside of a hut using this bag with the clothing listed above in temps of 8/9 degrees C or so. Was a bit chilly, but nothing that stopped me from getting enough sleep. Considering the lower limit is rated to 12.4 degrees C that was to be expected.

Wild Earth has a store on the Gold Coast so if your from there you could check it out in person, or maybe a local store to you may have it for sale.


Bag #2 - Cumulus Panyem 450 http://sleepingbags-cumulus.eu/uk/categ ... d=59&vid=6

Hot diggity, this bag is the bomb. 100% pertex (polyamide nylon) so this could be what your after. Bought this as a colder weather bag to take on a planned NZ trip in summer 2016. Very high quality down, technical outer/inner fabric, roomy enough for a large build person. Extremely soft & comfortable. the fabric has a very 'shiny' look but doesn't stick, scratch or have any negative feels.

When used out on track (3 walled hut), temps were around 9 degrees C or so as well. Had the full thermal outfit, didn't bother with the liner due to the low rating of the bag (Comfort 0, Limit -6, Extreme -23). Had it zipped halfway & ended up ditching the socks, pants & beanie because it was just too warm.

Next time I use this bag, will go with the silk liner and reduce my thermals, probally go to a short sleeve and chop legs on a pair of the pants or just go in underwear. Corvus has already mentioned the use of 100% silk liners, personal preference though. Could buy both see how they go.

Would 100% recommend a cumulus bag for your needs, they have different models to suit your needs. Don't be put off by the overseas sale. Customer service was awesome, this was the second time i bought a product from them. Took around 2 weeks to get the bag as they are made in-house, you can discuss with them if you want the bag customised. Price was good too. The advertised price is higher as they include EU VAT. Shipping was cheap too. Came to about $330AUD in total.

[Franco]

First I like to commend you on your great taste in tents...
You don't need to be allergic or extra sensitive to some fabrics to make you uncomfortable.
So, for example, after fiddling with pillows for years I finally realised that I did not like the feel against my face of the various blow up/self inflating/stuff sacks pillows I tried but a simple silk pillow case (stuffed with spare clothing) does the job for me.
All of the above to suggest to you to try a silk liner.
You will keep the quilt/bag cleaner and silk to most feels just fine.
(Get the larger rectangular) type so that you can move inside it if you toss and turn,
(they dry VERY fast after washing if you open one up over a tree frond/leafy branch or something like that).

[laciek]

Thank you all so much for the advice. The silk liner seems to be the go.

Special thanks to Fr3d, I had completely overlooked Cumulus for a sleeping bag/quilt. I will probably bite the bullet on purchasing the 350 Quilt. Really appreciate the commentary on the fabric they use.

[timdub]

Hi Fr£d On the Cumulus bag - did you have to pay duty? I've had a courier deduct customs charges even though the value was less than 1000AUD so I was going to try to persuade Cumulus to 'post' rather than 'DHL' a bag. But if yours got through okay then I'll relax a bit on that. I've already got a Mysterious Traveller 700 (my son uses) and a Teneqa 700 shortened (too short - I had to give it my daughter). I've asked for a quote on Quantum Endurance shell with Hydrophobic down and 700 gms of filling (I sleep cold). Seems to me the biggest problem on any extended trip in the UK (did Offas Dyke with my daughter in early winter and the bags were very degraded after a week) and the colder months in Tassie - is the 'wet and cold' not just the 'cold' per se. So Waterproofness is key and synthetic is still a bit heavy.

There was a question in there somewhere- ah yes - about the duty? Thanks.