Bushwalk Australia

Are they worth it?
if the answer is yes which ones are worth buying and which ones should be given a miss?
Are Vargo any good ? as they do seem to be the cheapest.
I am going to make an effort to remove some weight from my back before the next trip, even if it means buying some new gear and downsizing a little

Moondog55,
As you may suspect I use Titanium tent pegs and I find them functional and light ,mine are the Vee shape perforated from Vango (Adventure Friends) and work in sand and snow, the wire Shepards crooks are also handy for extras if your Tent needs them.
Hope this helps
corvus

I haven't tried one in the field yet but the titanium vango i have looks way too small to be much use in most snow (could deadman a couple together i guess). Something like the SMC snow stake is more like it but a lot of grams to carry a few.

Depends what you mean by ''worth buying'- search ebay for ' aluminium tent pegs' and the cheap anodised tri-pegs (look a bit like msr groundhogs) from China are 16g vs 10-11g for the titanium vangos. They are cheap as (e.g. 10 for $9 incl. shipping) and hold well but not quite as strong as the titanium (will bend if beating into hard soil with a rock). Still not the best as a straight peg in the snow (could deadman them if need be).

With respect nq111 I have used these perforated Vee pegs in the snow and they do work!!
just got to know how to
corvus

corvus wrote:With respect nq111 I have used these perforated Vee pegs in the snow and they do work!!
just got to know how to
corvus

Fair enough, I am sure they can be made to work or would work well regardless in some snow types.

But with a good chance of a strong wind tugging on pegs in loose snow i personally prefer something a bit more substantial at least for the main anchor points.

Again with respect nq111 strong wind in very sandy ground can also be a problem yet I have used the same Ti pegs with success, however to each their own
corvus

One of the reasons for looking was for snow and I too was thinking the Vargo simply did not have sufficient surface area to work as well as the traditional SMC or Bulldog round profile in the 450mm
The other is that I usually lose a peg or two each trip to bending and even the hard alloy BD/MSR aluminium pegs suffer from this.

Nails or Vees for Titanium?/ or a combination of both?

i doubt they'd hold other than burried in our icy and freezing snow
someone posted about splitting plastic tube to make proper powder pegs...

Hmm, are there any titanium snow stakes, must Google" now

What about these for soft sand and snow??

http://www.needlesports.com/Catalogue/C ... 18PACKhose from my climbing days

I'd think about a set of Coyotes if they came in titanium to get the weight down, I remember them from my climbing days

[quote="Moondog55"]One of the reasons for looking was for snow and I too was thinking the Vargo simply did not have sufficient surface area to work as well as the traditional SMC or Bulldog round profile in the 450mm
/quote]

They have about as much profile or a little less than a standard aluminum Y peg - but with holes. Nice peg, but too small for my comfort.

Yes - they could be made to work - i have even deadman'd two wire stakes in a cross (in higher, colder snow) with success when i was younger and poorer. Now, I just want a foolproof, bombproof option for all snow types.

The plastic bags look a great option, which I'd not thought of.

We ALL fluff around on the net trying to find the best aluminium/titanium stakes etc, (as I would probably do!), which all then melt out on a >0C evening, and the tent then flaps around and sags, before the blizzard hits at 2am and buries us, as the tent is then pitched poorly.

We all have a zillion plastic bags. We just need to remember to remove them when we pack up.

A great idea.

A

Actually it was resistance to bending
that made me ask in the first place, with the ability to be used in snow secondary.
Apart from the steel wire pegs a lot of the early tent pegs were of a big triangular or curved profile that worked OK in sand.
Snow really does need huge pegs or deadmen and my personal experience with plastic bags is poor, nylon stuff sacs is a totally different matter, here is where Cuben may be really well used perhaps