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stoves

PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 9:05 pm
by lazza7770
Hey all... I am in the market for a hiking stove. Weight is critical selection criteria, but so is dependency. I'm not very technical minded and easily peeved when something doesn't work like it's meant to. Just need something for hikes up to a week. To boil water, cook simple stuff. I've been told gas is best? is that true? and if so - what brand. I am just starting out on my hiking life - I don't want to spend heaps of money just in case i get bored with it in a few months. But happy to spend a bit for quality...

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 10:43 pm
by Strider
Unless you need something for seriously cold weather, go straight to Kathmandu and pick up 'their" Titanium Hiking Stove - currently on sale at $39.95.

This stove is a rebranded Fire Maple FMS-116T (monatauk gnat, higear blaze, etc) and is the lightest stove in the world at 48g. It is very high quality and made in China.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr, 2012 10:58 pm
by corvus
+1
Strider wrote:Unless you need something for seriously cold weather, go straight to Kathmandu and pick up 'their" Titanium Hiking Stove - currently on sale at $39.95.

This stove is a rebranded Fire Maple FMS-116T (monatauk gnat, higear blaze, etc) and is the lightest stove in the world at 48g. It is very high quality and made in China.

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+! :D
corvus

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr, 2012 7:42 am
by Tony
While many bushwalkers have had no problems with the Kathmandu Titanium Hiking Stove, my Kathmandu Titanium Hiking Stove failed on me the first time I used it in the field, luckily I could still use it though it had a much reduced flame, I suspect the jet was blocked from poor or unclean assembly, when I arrived home I stripped the stove down and found the jet is not easy to unblock as it has some sintered bronze filter tightly pressed into the jet base, even if I hade a jet removal tool I could not remove the filter in the field and unblock the jet, I will have to destroy the filter to unblock the jet, I have no faith in this stove.

My choice of upright canister stoves is a Elemental Kovea Supalite Titanium Stove I have had mine for a few years now and it has peformed flawlessly.

Tony

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr, 2012 10:53 pm
by Mountain Rocket
I agree with Tony, the Kovea Supalite is a top stove. Every review I read put it ahead of the Gnat.
Consider buying it from http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/140723267482 ... 1423.l2649, it is where I got mine from and I am very happy. Hard to complain with a 55g stove that cost $45!

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr, 2012 10:56 pm
by corvus
Tony wrote:While many bushwalkers have had no problems with the Kathmandu Titanium Hiking Stove, my Kathmandu Titanium Hiking Stove failed on me the first time I used it in the field, luckily I could still use it though it had a much reduced flame, I suspect the jet was blocked from poor or unclean assembly, when I arrived home I stripped the stove down and found the jet is not easy to unblock as it has some sintered bronze filter tightly pressed into the jet base, even if I hade a jet removal tool I could not remove the filter in the field and unblock the jet, I will have to destroy the filter to unblock the jet, I have no faith in this stove.

My choice of upright canister stoves is a Elemental Kovea Supalite Titanium Stove I have had mine for a few years now and it has peformed flawlessly.

Tony


G'day Tony,
Are we talking about the same stove here ? I have stripped my FMS 116t and cannot find any evidence of "bronzing or brazing" to my eye it looks like pressing is the main method of manufacture of this stove so perhaps you got a Friday one when the were chucking around sintures for free :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 7:14 am
by Strider
corvus wrote:
Tony wrote:While many bushwalkers have had no problems with the Kathmandu Titanium Hiking Stove, my Kathmandu Titanium Hiking Stove failed on me the first time I used it in the field, luckily I could still use it though it had a much reduced flame, I suspect the jet was blocked from poor or unclean assembly, when I arrived home I stripped the stove down and found the jet is not easy to unblock as it has some sintered bronze filter tightly pressed into the jet base, even if I hade a jet removal tool I could not remove the filter in the field and unblock the jet, I will have to destroy the filter to unblock the jet, I have no faith in this stove.

My choice of upright canister stoves is a Elemental Kovea Supalite Titanium Stove I have had mine for a few years now and it has peformed flawlessly.

Tony


G'day Tony,
Are we talking about the same stove here ? I have stripped my FMS 116t and cannot find any evidence of "bronzing or brazing" to my eye it looks like pressing is the main method of manufacture of this stove so perhaps you got a Friday one when the were chucking around sintures for free :lol:

Mine has the bronze filter Tony is talking about.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 8:47 am
by Nuts
G'day lazza, i'd still go for metho, especially in Qld. Many places still sell trangia (brand) in solo and larger sizes. Integrated pot/frypan etc. Foolproof and relatively light weight. Can be converted to gas later on if you need.

Hey Corvus, don't you have a 118 yet? http://www.fire-maple.com/myWeb/Product ... 0&bigid=11 :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 10:05 am
by sthughes
Yeah I have a Elemental Supalight, great stove, especially while temps are above 0 degrees.

I'd buy a Jetboil Sol if I needed a stove today.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 10:43 am
by Strider
Nuts wrote:G'day lazza, i'd still go for metho, especially in Qld. Many places still sell trangia (brand) in solo and larger sizes. Integrated pot/frypan etc. Foolproof and relatively light weight. Can be converted to gas later on if you need.

Trangias have really been left behind IMO. If going alcohol there are better options these days. Though gas stoves are still cheaper, usually lighter and definitely perform better.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 10:58 am
by Nuts
My metho stove is a caldera Cone used with a titanium pot (not 'cheap' and needs care). Iv'e had that top screw shear off the superlight above. I haven't owned a jetboil but our Reactor needed care as well and didn't last long after a few spills and inattention (and they aren't cheap either, especially if complied for Oz).

For the OP requirements a mini (or larger) trangia is still a relatively inexpensive (including running costs..), readily available, 'dependable' all-in-one 'system that can be built on. They are also relatively efficient in real world use (if you have a few spare minutes...)

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 11:24 am
by sthughes
I wouldn't buy a Mini Trangia as they are insanley slow in any wind, the 27 series are appealing except for the simmer ring system, but okay for boiling water and the like. Nothing like gas for ease of control, but metho is the most dependable.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2012 1:06 pm
by corvus
Strider wrote:
corvus wrote:
Tony wrote:While many bushwalkers have had no problems with the Kathmandu Titanium Hiking Stove, my Kathmandu Titanium Hiking Stove failed on me the first time I used it in the field, luckily I could still use it though it had a much reduced flame, I suspect the jet was blocked from poor or unclean assembly, when I arrived home I stripped the stove down and found the jet is not easy to unblock as it has some sintered bronze filter tightly pressed into the jet base, even if I hade a jet removal tool I could not remove the filter in the field and unblock the jet, I will have to destroy the filter to unblock the jet, I have no faith in this stove.

My choice of upright canister stoves is a Elemental Kovea Supalite Titanium Stove I have had mine for a few years now and it has peformed flawlessly.

Tony


G'day Tony,
Are we talking about the same stove here ? I have stripped my FMS 116t and cannot find any evidence of "bronzing or brazing" to my eye it looks like pressing is the main method of manufacture of this stove so perhaps you got a Friday one when the were chucking around sintures for free :lol:

Mine has the bronze filter Tony is talking about.


Tony I must apologise the jet in my 116T has the bronze filter the Stove works well, it must be dissapointing that the Kathmandu version you have is a dud also I need to read and understand posts before I reply .
corvus

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PostPosted: Sat 05 May, 2012 9:53 am
by Dale
Tony wrote:My choice of upright canister stoves is a Elemental Kovea Supalite Titanium Stove I have had mine for a few years now and it has peformed flawlessly.

Tony


Thanks for the recommendation Tony. Was pondering on a lightweight stove to replace my Pocket Rocket - the short supports were making me too nervous... Grabbed the Kovea today.

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PostPosted: Tue 08 May, 2012 5:44 pm
by Stew63
Just got my Kovea Supalite Titanium 56 delivered from Korea today - AUD$38! WOW! What a great little stove to supplement my Primus OmniFuel. Perfect for the kids to safely use too.