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Wed 23 May, 2012 2:05 pm
Three weeks ago just before my trip to the Kimberley’s my JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system (Alunimium pot) arrived (many thanks to BWA member HJ), not having much time to test I hurriedly unpacked the stove, read the instructions, put some water in the pot and started the stove and boils some water.
For a while now the importers of JetBoil stove systems S2S, have been advertising the JetBoil Sol cooking systems in Wild magazine, as of three weeks ago, I have not seen them in the shops, on enquiring a sales person told me that they where expected to be in stock before last Christmas, but are held up by getting approval from the relevant authorities, this also happened with the PCS and GCs systems. The prices advertised for the Sol stove systems in Australia are much higher than in the US.
My complete JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system weighs in at 313.4 grams, the minimum configuration of just the burner (101.1g) and the pot (137.0 g) (no neoprene sleeve) plus lid (18.2g) weighs in at 256.3g.
There is a cup to protect the base of the pot, which weighs 32.4g, I do not think it is needed, anyway I have broken mine already.
Back to the initial impressions, I do own a JetBoil PCS stove system, the PCS is very robust but heavy, the first thing I noticed about the Sol Advanced system is that the burner pot mount is quite flimsy, the pot can easily wobble when attached to the burner. After opening the valve I pressed the piezo igniter and I had flame first click. Another thing that caught my attention is that the burner had a large tag attached to it, and the tag had written on it that warranty is void if tag removed, what a load of lawyer driven rubbish, of course the first thing I did was remove the tag as most other users would do.
First major problem, after the water boiled I could not remove the pot from the burner, it was stuck on, the burner was too hot to touch and if I held the canister the burner unscrewed from the canister, after allowing the burner cooled down a bit, the pot then came off, so far I am not impressed.
Not to waste the heated water I made a cup of tea, the water tasted off but I had not washed the pot first.
After returning from the Kimberley’s I did another test with my JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system and I had the same problem with the pot sticking to the burner, I have read that this has been a problem with the Sol cooking system users, I think JetBoil need to do some redesigning. The Neoprene pot cosy is also much thinner than the old PCS cosy, I found that when the water is boiling it does not give much insulation value and the pot was too hot to hold, I had to use the handle, I am tempted to take the cosy off and use a put grabber instead. The burner and 100g canister fit very nicely inside the pot, the lid does not want to stay on too well.
One positive is that the JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system did boil the water very fast and has a pressure control valve which stops the user from using too much fuel, but the manufacturers claim that the pressure reduction valve allows the stove to work in colder temperature and it allows more gas to used from the canister is pure marketing BS.
Future testing, I will be doing efficiency tests on the JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system and comparing the system with my with my JetBoil PCS cooking system and my favoured Kovea Supalite stove and cheap 1l aluminium pot system.
Future plans, being the stove fiddler that I am, I am planning to do a cold weather conversion to it and make it a remote canister stove system for solo winter snow trips.
Tony
For a while now the importers of JetBoil stove systems S2S, have been advertising the JetBoil Sol cooking systems in Wild magazine, as of three weeks ago, I have not seen them in the shops, on enquiring a sales person told me that they where expected to be in stock before last Christmas, but are held up by getting approval from the relevant authorities, this also happened with the PCS and GCs systems. The prices advertised for the Sol stove systems in Australia are much higher than in the US.
My complete JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system weighs in at 313.4 grams, the minimum configuration of just the burner (101.1g) and the pot (137.0 g) (no neoprene sleeve) plus lid (18.2g) weighs in at 256.3g.
There is a cup to protect the base of the pot, which weighs 32.4g, I do not think it is needed, anyway I have broken mine already.
Back to the initial impressions, I do own a JetBoil PCS stove system, the PCS is very robust but heavy, the first thing I noticed about the Sol Advanced system is that the burner pot mount is quite flimsy, the pot can easily wobble when attached to the burner. After opening the valve I pressed the piezo igniter and I had flame first click. Another thing that caught my attention is that the burner had a large tag attached to it, and the tag had written on it that warranty is void if tag removed, what a load of lawyer driven rubbish, of course the first thing I did was remove the tag as most other users would do.
First major problem, after the water boiled I could not remove the pot from the burner, it was stuck on, the burner was too hot to touch and if I held the canister the burner unscrewed from the canister, after allowing the burner cooled down a bit, the pot then came off, so far I am not impressed.
Not to waste the heated water I made a cup of tea, the water tasted off but I had not washed the pot first.
After returning from the Kimberley’s I did another test with my JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system and I had the same problem with the pot sticking to the burner, I have read that this has been a problem with the Sol cooking system users, I think JetBoil need to do some redesigning. The Neoprene pot cosy is also much thinner than the old PCS cosy, I found that when the water is boiling it does not give much insulation value and the pot was too hot to hold, I had to use the handle, I am tempted to take the cosy off and use a put grabber instead. The burner and 100g canister fit very nicely inside the pot, the lid does not want to stay on too well.
One positive is that the JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system did boil the water very fast and has a pressure control valve which stops the user from using too much fuel, but the manufacturers claim that the pressure reduction valve allows the stove to work in colder temperature and it allows more gas to used from the canister is pure marketing BS.
Future testing, I will be doing efficiency tests on the JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system and comparing the system with my with my JetBoil PCS cooking system and my favoured Kovea Supalite stove and cheap 1l aluminium pot system.
Future plans, being the stove fiddler that I am, I am planning to do a cold weather conversion to it and make it a remote canister stove system for solo winter snow trips.
Tony
- JetBoil Sol Advanced cooking system on Canister
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- Bottom of burner, please not the pressure regulator off to the side of the valve.
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- Burner and 100g canister fit very nicely inside pot
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- Attachments
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- Top of burner
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Last edited by Tony on Tue 05 Jun, 2012 5:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: JetBoil Sol Advanced first impressions.
Wed 23 May, 2012 4:04 pm
Hey, I like that orange! Mine (Ti) is drab grey.
Agree that the connection between the pot and the burner is less than foolproof. You have to align the dots, which might be useful if you were going to pick the whole shooting match up by the cup I guess. It's also a bit tight, so it doesn't operate like a fine tolerance machine. Could be better, I agree. I've not had a problem separating them, nor have I had problems holding the cup (with cosy) after boiling, and I thought the Ti version cosy was even thinner than the Al one? The handle on the Ti is useless, so if you can use the handle on the Al version, that's a bonus. I'm going to cut my handle off. Wobble hasn't been a problem I have noticed.
Be interested with your further reports.
Agree that the connection between the pot and the burner is less than foolproof. You have to align the dots, which might be useful if you were going to pick the whole shooting match up by the cup I guess. It's also a bit tight, so it doesn't operate like a fine tolerance machine. Could be better, I agree. I've not had a problem separating them, nor have I had problems holding the cup (with cosy) after boiling, and I thought the Ti version cosy was even thinner than the Al one? The handle on the Ti is useless, so if you can use the handle on the Al version, that's a bonus. I'm going to cut my handle off. Wobble hasn't been a problem I have noticed.
Be interested with your further reports.
Re: JetBoil Sol Advanced first impressions.
Tue 05 Jun, 2012 12:18 am
Just a point of order here: it's a piezo igniter, not a pezio. I hear people say pezio all the time and it irritates the hell out of me. Pee-et-zoh. Piezo.
Thanks for the in-depth review. I am selling a Sol Ti but no one seems to want to buy. It's pretty flimsy.
Thanks for the in-depth review. I am selling a Sol Ti but no one seems to want to buy. It's pretty flimsy.
Re: JetBoil Sol Advanced first impressions.
Tue 05 Jun, 2012 5:28 am
Wolfix wrote:Just a point of order here: it's a piezo igniter, not a pezio. I hear people say pezio all the time and it irritates the hell out of me. Pee-et-zoh. Piezo.
Thanks for the in-depth review. I am selling a Sol Ti but no one seems to want to buy. It's pretty flimsy.
Hi Wolfix,
Many thanks for pointing out my typo, if people spelling piezo wrong irritates the hell out of you I am sorry. I used get really annoyed by people who complained about minor spelling errors but after surviving cancer I have realised life is so much more important.
Tony
Re: JetBoil Sol Advanced first impressions.
Tue 05 Jun, 2012 1:46 pm
Hi Tony,
Passive aggression is surely on the list of less important things. I was direct with you and you could have been the same with me.
It's possible to both have a positive outlook on life and to correct people on their spelling or pronunciation. The word "piezo" means "to press" in Greek and this is where the transducer gets its name. Pressure is transduced into an electrical charge. Piezo transducers are used widely in electronic controls including digital drum kits. I have a friend who is an electrical engineer who still says "pee-zee-oh" which causes me to suspect it is being taught incorrectly in TAFE and University. I'd like the standard of our education to be raised, not lowered, and I believe that correctly pronouncing terms central to one's profession is important not only for individual professional integrity but for the integrity of our industries and our education system. So you understand that in my opinion this is one of life's more important things, not that it is necessary to justify every comment made by tying it to some item of vital importance.
Wolfix.
Passive aggression is surely on the list of less important things. I was direct with you and you could have been the same with me.
It's possible to both have a positive outlook on life and to correct people on their spelling or pronunciation. The word "piezo" means "to press" in Greek and this is where the transducer gets its name. Pressure is transduced into an electrical charge. Piezo transducers are used widely in electronic controls including digital drum kits. I have a friend who is an electrical engineer who still says "pee-zee-oh" which causes me to suspect it is being taught incorrectly in TAFE and University. I'd like the standard of our education to be raised, not lowered, and I believe that correctly pronouncing terms central to one's profession is important not only for individual professional integrity but for the integrity of our industries and our education system. So you understand that in my opinion this is one of life's more important things, not that it is necessary to justify every comment made by tying it to some item of vital importance.
Wolfix.
Re: JetBoil Sol Advanced first impressions.
Tue 05 Jun, 2012 1:54 pm
Wolfix wrote: I am selling a Sol Ti but no one seems to want to buy. It's pretty flimsy.
Where are you selling it? I have a mate who is looking for one, I'll pass the link over to him.
Re: JetBoil Sol Advanced first impressions.
Tue 05 Jun, 2012 4:46 pm
Sorry PH, it's just been sold!
Re: JetBoil Sol Advanced first impressions.
Tue 05 Jun, 2012 7:34 pm
Tony wrote:Wolfix wrote:Just a point of order here: it's a piezo igniter, not a pezio. I hear people say pezio all the time and it irritates the hell out of me. Pee-et-zoh. Piezo.
Thanks for the in-depth review. I am selling a Sol Ti but no one seems to want to buy. It's pretty flimsy.
Hi Wolfix,
Many thanks for pointing out my typo, if people spelling piezo wrong irritates the hell out of you I am sorry. I used get really annoyed by people who complained about minor spelling errors but after surviving cancer I have realised life is so much more important.
Tony
Nice response Tony - larfed ! (sorry about the spelling Wolfix)
Back on topic. I've been contemplating a Jetboil system for longer walks where the weight savings from the boil efficiencies start to come in to play. I haven't done much investigation yet - Tony do you recommend one of the other Jetboil systems ?
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