wayno wrote:yeah second the rx100 for image quality, has a better sensor than any micro four thirds camera.
wildernesswanderer wrote:Hard to recommend anything unless we know your budget.
Personally out of mirrorless cameras I like the new Fuji cameras The X-E1 without the viewfinder is nice but the reason I really like Fuji is for two reasons, Fuji use a modified bayer sensor that has a 6x6 pixel array than the standard 2x2, basically the channel that gets lost most is the green channel in a sensor and they use more green pixels than a normal sensor, this gives very natural looking colour
And the second reason is that Fuji have by far the best lenses for their system, not cheap but brilliant primes. Fujinon lenses are superb and worth it. The new 14mm lens coming has me interested as this is equivalent to 21mm in 35mm format terms, that and the 35mm and 60mm macro would make a great hike kit. Maybe a little more than you want to spend though
MichaelP wrote:The trick is to find a hiking buddy with all the gear. That way you get great trip photos but they carry it all!
wayno wrote:sorry if i was wrong about my comment, the RX has a 20mp sensor that is larger than a four thirds sensor
photohiker wrote:wildernesswanderer wrote:Hard to recommend anything unless we know your budget.
Personally out of mirrorless cameras I like the new Fuji cameras The X-E1 without the viewfinder is nice but the reason I really like Fuji is for two reasons, Fuji use a modified bayer sensor that has a 6x6 pixel array than the standard 2x2, basically the channel that gets lost most is the green channel in a sensor and they use more green pixels than a normal sensor, this gives very natural looking colour
And the second reason is that Fuji have by far the best lenses for their system, not cheap but brilliant primes. Fujinon lenses are superb and worth it. The new 14mm lens coming has me interested as this is equivalent to 21mm in 35mm format terms, that and the 35mm and 60mm macro would make a great hike kit. Maybe a little more than you want to spend though
Agree with this, and we do need a budget.
I've got that Fuji 14mm on pre-order. I'd also suggest the Olympus EM-5 because it has weathersealing and a good range of micro 4/3 lenses are available from Olympus and Panasonic. The Fuji has better output IMO but I'm probably biassed because I have one
You can get a good idea of camera sizes on camerasize.com. For instance here is the Olympus EM-5 vs the Fuji X-E1
wildernesswanderer wrote:I would still pick a Fuji over a Olympus any day. I have a major reason for it and Sony are exactly the same. Image Stabilisation was originally done in lenses ie Canon and Nikon. Olympus came out with stabilisation in the body of the camera and this mechanical mechanism is attached around the sensor of the camera, Sony followed suite and did the same. Their reason was that now any lens could be fitted to the body of the camera and would be stabilised, far enough seemed like a good idea. apart from the motors in Canons and Nikons lenses are different for each stabilised lens, can't do this with a Olympus or Sony, they have one motor, so the motor has to be made to work differently for each lens you stick on the camera, still not a problem BUT this is why I won't touch them. Working in a Camera Repairer for quite a while the biggest and most common fault with in body stabilisation is a failure of the motor, it jams, throws the sensor out of whack and you can't even just turn it off and keep using the camera as the motor if jammed off centre, off centres the sensor as well. Now of all my time working in repairs the most common lens problem we ever saw had nothing ever to do with the motor in the lenses. Usually someone dropped the lens.
Second problem with in camera stabilisers is that usually when they go they are part of the whole sensor and more times than not if the camera is cheap it's a right off but if it's expensive the replacement cost and repair is in the $700 mark.
I also personally don't think that either Olympus or Sony's mirrorless cameras lenses are anywhere as good as their DSLR ones far from it and is the main reason I prefer Fuji.
wayno wrote:sometimes i wonder if the most reliable way to go with cameras is with a box brownie.....
nickthetasmaniac wrote:In regard to your comment re: lenses. Have you used the Panasonic 7-14/f4, Olympus 12/f2, Panasonic 12-35/f2.8, Panasonic 20/f1.7, Panasonic 25/f1.4, Olympus 45/f1.8, Olympus 60/f2.8 or Olympus 75/f1.8? Because these are all Micro Four Thirds lenses (both Olympus and Panasonic lenses are interchangeable within the system) that are definitely equal of the legendary Olympus Zuiko Digital lenses. Certainly in all cases where there is an equivalent, they are as good if not better than the new Fuji X lenses.
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