wayno wrote:thats why you need a locator beacon, you arent reliant on others to bail you out and the signal goes straight to professional rescue services who will treat the alert with the highest priority and send help immediately, by the fastest means practicable.
Moondog55 wrote:I'm not sure I get this.
The other walker just passed on by and didn't offer assistance or was help offered and refused?
Did he have other clothing in his pack?
I'm sure that the coroner had access to more information than is in the short media report.
Not having done the track myself how much time would it take to get back down 1200 metres from the hut. I do know from personal experience that going from OK to F***d can take a very short time even when well equipped if you think things are going well and you don't do "stuff" immediately
nezumi wrote:From the report, the other walker who found him offered him chocolate and to walk with them, but was also concerned about the potential for his 11 year old son to go into hypothermia. Once he reached the hut he radioed across and made contact, then considered going out to look but realised he wouldn't be likely to have any success. He left a light on outside the hut as a waymarker for the other walker.
GPSGuided wrote:No further suspicion when the deceased didn’t arrive at the hut after half an hour?
dee_legg wrote:Edit: I now realise that the actual coroner's report wasn't linked in the original post. Here it is for anyone wishing to read the ins and outs. https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/468022/TOLPUTT-Findings-OM.pdf
dee_legg wrote:wayno wrote:thats why you need a locator beacon, you arent reliant on others to bail you out and the signal goes straight to professional rescue services who will treat the alert with the highest priority and send help immediately, by the fastest means practicable.
Wayno, if you read the report, you'll find that there were multiple factors contributing to the finding of the Coroner that a PLB would have not assisted the deceased. I'm not disregarding your notion that PLB's offer a very useful tool for bushwalkers, but your comment in this context doesn't correlate with the situation at hand.
Cheers,
Dee
Edit: I now realise that the actual coroner's report wasn't linked in the original post. Here it is for anyone wishing to read the ins and outs. https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/468022/TOLPUTT-Findings-OM.pdf
wayno wrote:dee_legg wrote:wayno wrote:thats why you need a locator beacon, you arent reliant on others to bail you out and the signal goes straight to professional rescue services who will treat the alert with the highest priority and send help immediately, by the fastest means practicable.
Wayno, if you read the report, you'll find that there were multiple factors contributing to the finding of the Coroner that a PLB would have not assisted the deceased. I'm not disregarding your notion that PLB's offer a very useful tool for bushwalkers, but your comment in this context doesn't correlate with the situation at hand.
Cheers,
Dee
Edit: I now realise that the actual coroner's report wasn't linked in the original post. Here it is for anyone wishing to read the ins and outs. https://www.magistratescourt.tas.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/468022/TOLPUTT-Findings-OM.pdf
its irrelevant whether it would have saved him or not, there should have been people out there with beacons and emergency shelters and they should have been used to try and save him, and that never happened. its a bigger failure than just delay contacting authorities through word of mouth and radio..
Vee wrote:Wayno
How does a member of the public force another person to do something against their will? Help was offered in this case by two different walking parties.
north-north-west wrote:Ordinary members of the public have no duty of care to complete strangers who put themselves in danger.
All this "they didn't try hard enough" bull. They were there, you weren't. They could assess the dangers of attempting assistance/rescue in the prevailing condition, you can't. It is not possible to save everyone who goes bush without adequate preparation and equipment. We all have to accept that. Judging the people on the ground who did the best they could at the time and in the circumstances achieves nothing.
north-north-west wrote:Ordinary members of the public have no duty of care to complete strangers who put themselves in danger.
All this "they didn't try hard enough" bull. They were there, you weren't. They could assess the dangers of attempting assistance/rescue in the prevailing condition, you can't. It is not possible to save everyone who goes bush without adequate preparation and equipment. We all have to accept that. Judging the people on the ground who did the best they could at the time and in the circumstances achieves nothing.
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