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Tree ID

Postby wander » Wed 16 May, 2012 4:55 pm

Is this a Huon or King Billy?

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Re: Tree ID

Postby frenchy_84 » Wed 16 May, 2012 5:15 pm

any better photos, which show its leaves?
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Re: Tree ID

Postby Lady McGuyver » Wed 16 May, 2012 5:31 pm

I'll put my money on King Billy :)
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Re: Tree ID

Postby mjdalessa » Wed 16 May, 2012 6:21 pm

+1, Huon Pine has draping foliage
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Re: Tree ID

Postby north-north-west » Wed 16 May, 2012 6:54 pm

Ask for its drivers licence.
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Re: Tree ID

Postby Graham51 » Wed 16 May, 2012 8:58 pm

Best to walk around it when you're there and see what sort of folliage has dropped on the ground.
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Re: Tree ID

Postby taswegian » Wed 16 May, 2012 9:17 pm

Blackwoods can have furrowed trunks like that.
What are the trees surrounding it? Eucalypts?

Do Huon and or King Billy grow in that sort of forest type?
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Re: Tree ID

Postby Son of a Beach » Thu 17 May, 2012 9:21 am

The branches up towards the top have that curved stag-horn look of a King Billy, rather than the drooping/sweeping branches of the Huon Pine. Also the twisted helical lines on the trunk are typical of many (but not all) King Billys.

And the fact that you got close to one makes it more likely that it was a King Billy as most (but not all) Huon Pines are in more remote locations. There are many King Billy's in commonly accessed areas.

The foliage is the easiest way to tell. The Huon Pine foliage looks like in this picture: http://bushwalk.com/blog/wp-content/upl ... -Jetty.jpg

King Billy has foliage that looks an awful lot like that of a Norfolk Pine (but very different branch structure). (it's foliage is apparently supposed to have a similar structure to some selaginella too, hence it's latin name meaning "a similar taxonomy to selaginella").
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Re: Tree ID

Postby wander » Thu 17 May, 2012 4:41 pm

At the time I thought it was a grove of King Billies. But after reading some history of the piners in the Picton area I started to re-think that idea. It is a difficult to get to location so I'm not ducking back to get some leaves in the near future. The leaves were very large and the other comments seem to confirm it as a small forest of King Billies. Also the location is on a ridge top whereas all the Huon locations I have seen have been wet, damp, soggy swamping edges of rivers. To some extent the opposite. I have only one other possibly helpful pic and based on the notes above it confirms the King Billy diagnosis.

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Re: Tree ID

Postby JamesMc » Thu 17 May, 2012 8:50 pm

If the leaves were very large then it's not a hoon pine. Their leaves are almost hair like.

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Re: Tree ID

Postby ithomas » Mon 21 May, 2012 11:15 am

It's almost impossible to ID this tree without leaves or fruit. The first photograph looks like a eucalypt to me(!) while the second photograph doesn't look like the first! Some very old and large celery-top pines can look like the 2nd photograph, so can Blackwood. Celery-top has flattened leave-like stems about 3-5cm long which actually look like celery leaves. Huon has tiny leaves which are closely appressed along longish branchlets. King Billy has smallish keel shaped leaves about 6-8mm long which are not closely appressed onto branchlets. None of the pines have 'very large leaves'.
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