Helicopter Rescues in Tasmania "2"

[Nuts]

Bizarre indeed, she couldn't have been far at all from the track. Parkies could consider it nobody else's business, indeed she may not necessarily need such training in her role (and wearing a badge doesn't necessarily qualify anything, even some senior staff would be well out of their element). I'm sure the result is a big relief for all concerned.

PS especially the poor woman herself, notwithstanding the now very likely possibility (and added humiliation) of a good gastro clouting..

[Strider]

A search is currently underway in the WAs. Details seem a bit strange?

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/462 ... g/?cs=5312

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[north-north-west]

...they are ill-equipped for the cold and wet conditions and they have little bushwalking experience,

if they thought of trying a WArthurs traverse as a daywalk, they also have no *&%$#! idea. "Oh well, it's not very far, we're fit enough, how hard can it be . . . "

[Thornbill]

That's all a bit......weird. Set out for a day walk, then decide to do the Western Arthurs instead, with no gear, in April. Hopefully this is just a case of the media getting their facts wrong.

[north-north-west]

That's all a bit......weird. Set out for a day walk, then decide to do the Western Arthurs instead, with no gear, in April. Hopefully this is just a case of the media getting their facts wrong.

One hopes. But stupider things have been done.

[taswegian]

I take anything from our local rag with a grain of salt.
They are notorious for fake news.
A short while ago "a man died in his car on Cradle Mountain". And there's similar ridiculous stories

Hopefully this has a quick and successful result.

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[Rick]

Let's just hope they are found safe and well.

Their family would be living a nightmare right now.

[Thornbill]

I take anything from our local rag with a grain of salt.

Me too. But what's worrying is that the statement on the Tas Police Facebook page says exactly the same thing. I don't envy anyone currently out there with no gear. Fingers crossed it all works out.

[Strider]

I take anything from our local rag with a grain of salt.

Me too. But what's worrying is that the statement on the Tas Police Facebook page says exactly the same thing. I don't envy anyone currently out there with no gear. Fingers crossed it all works out.

I wouldn't want to be there tonight even with the best gear. Brrrrrr.

The wife/mother commented on Facebook that they were well prepared, though apparently not well prepared enough. The gear found in the car is what really baffles me.

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[geoskid]

I take anything from our local rag with a grain of salt.

Me too. But what's worrying is that the statement on the Tas Police Facebook page says exactly the same thing. I don't envy anyone currently out there with no gear. Fingers crossed it all works out.

I wouldn't want to be there tonight even with the best gear. Brrrrrr.

The wife/mother commented on Facebook that they were well prepared, though apparently not well prepared enough. The gear found in the car is what really baffles me.

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G'day Strider,
I have had an ear to this story, but only from News reports (what else is there worth listening to).
Faark, obviously I want it to all be good, but ... just Faark. A dad and his boy. What more can one do?

[Rick]

No news yet.

I really hope they pull through.

[dazintaz]

Gees, why have they suspended search until dawn, it will be too late! I know conditions are treacherous for S&R but seriously, planes and choppers don't stop flying because of bad weather. Thermal imaging at night?? get support down to them asap until first light then go back in daylight when safe to retrieve.

[Osik]

I just want to post a reminder that media and family members sometimes keep an eye on our forum when these sorts of incidents take place, and that at this point in time it's not particularly helpful to second guess the decisions made by the search controllers.

Managing fatigue and keeping the chopper and ground crews safe is a huge part of managing a search and rescue operation. From experience I know that the Police and SES search teams, the chopper crews and other support people will be pushing themselves to the limit in trying to find these guys. And thermal imaging on the choppers while a very valuable resource, isn't what you see in films.

Anyway, here's hoping that they're found safe as soon as possible.

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[Strider]

Now revealed neither of the pair have any bushwalking experience and had purchased new gear for the trip (but left it behind at the campsite.

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-2 ... fmredir=sm

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[north-north-west]

Gees, why have they suspended search until dawn, it will be too late! I know conditions are treacherous for S&R but seriously, planes and choppers don't stop flying because of bad weather.

Yes they do. There is no point risking the flight crews in treacherous conditions. The first rule of search/rescue/first aid is to keep yourself safe.

[tastrax]

Gees, why have they suspended search until dawn, it will be too late! I know conditions are treacherous for S&R but seriously, planes and choppers don't stop flying because of bad weather. Thermal imaging at night?? get support down to them asap until first light then go back in daylight when safe to retrieve.

As someone who has been trained for night vision helicopter operations, I can assure you the crews will want to be out there when its safe to do so. Not all conditions are suitable for night vision / thermal imaging work. Everyone involved, including those on the ground, will be giving their best to find these people.

[lee737]

Faark, obviously I want it to all be good, but ... just Faark. A dad and his boy. What more can one do?

+1, as a Dad who loves going bush with his boys......

[Strider]

...they are ill-equipped for the cold and wet conditions and they have little bushwalking experience,

if they thought of trying a WArthurs traverse as a daywalk, they also have no *&%$#! idea. "Oh well, it's not very far, we're fit enough, how hard can it be . . . "

Sadly it does appear this is the case.

They've underestimated the terrain or what they were going to undertake - they said they were going to do it in a day.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-27/w ... on/8474972

[matagi]

Interesting .... there have been a couple of posts on the TasPol FB page by family and friends which imply they are not rank amateurs, so the information seems to be somewhat conflicting.

[Strider]

Interesting .... there have been a couple of posts on the TasPol FB page by family and friends which imply they are not rank amateurs, so the information seems to be somewhat conflicting.

I have a feeling our idea of "experienced" versus their understanding are worlds apart.

[matagi]

Interesting .... there have been a couple of posts on the TasPol FB page by family and friends which imply they are not rank amateurs, so the information seems to be somewhat conflicting.

I have a feeling our idea of "experienced" versus their understanding are worlds apart.

True, but some of the information coming out does not seem to make sense.

[jimmyharris]

Good news! From TP's Facebook account.

"Breaking News... They're alive!!!

The missing bushwalkers at Lake Pedder have been located alive.

More to come..."

[Mountain Rocket]

Wow what a relief, they must have had a *&%$#! awful night out there. Great to hear they are alive!

[Strider]

Wow what a relief, they must have had a *&%$#! awful night out there. Great to hear they are alive!

Three nights! Great news!

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[Mountain Rocket]

Far out hadn't appreciated it was that long! So that is two different groups in the one week that have both been rescued following multiple nights unequipped in the wilderness? A great effort by all involved.

[lee737]

Three nights, cold and wet..... very lucky.... good news.

[Lophophaps]

Any luck should be attributed to PWS, Police SAR, BSAR, SES and maybe others. Many posting on this thread have decades more experience than the WA pair. How many of us could survive three nights with minimal gear in poor conditions? I'd be struggling. It would be interesting to find out what they were intending to do and what gear they had with them. A groundsheet, matches and food would make a lot of difference. Maybe the lost ones were looking for a person to translate Japanese.

[Thornbill]

I was expecting some news today, but after 3 nights out there, with little equipment or experience (yet to be clarified it seems), I had a bad feeling that the news wouldn't be good. They are certainly very lucky. Great result

[Rick]

Well done to all those involved in the search and rescue.

You are all champions!!

[lee737]

Any luck should be attributed to PWS, Police SAR, BSAR, SES and maybe others. Many posting on this thread have decades more experience than the WA pair. How many of us could survive three nights with minimal gear in poor conditions? I'd be struggling. It would be interesting to find out what they were intending to do and what gear they had with them. A groundsheet, matches and food would make a lot of difference. Maybe the lost ones were looking for a person to translate Japanese.

As far as PWS, SAR, BSAR etc - luck doesn't come into it, just good management of the situation. The intrepid walkers were the lucky ones.....