Fri 15 Mar, 2013 6:17 pm
stepbystep wrote:corvus wrote:stepbystep wrote:Oops, Sulphur leaking from a tailings dam into the Savage River, danger to health of the river and marine life.
Just as well as there is only one mine there and it has an 'award winning' record for environmental management.....
Can't wait for more mines, won't that be great for jobs
So one leak is a disasterwhat do you propose sbs close it down ??
corvus
Did I use the word disaster corvus? No need to be alarmist, someone might lose their job!
Fri 15 Mar, 2013 6:56 pm
corvus wrote:Implication sbs implication with perhaps a greenish tinge eh!!
corvus
Fri 15 Mar, 2013 7:13 pm
stepbystep wrote:corvus wrote:Implication sbs implication with perhaps a greenish tinge eh!!
corvus
What about the implications for what's left of life in the Savage River corvus??
Fri 15 Mar, 2013 7:42 pm
corvus wrote:stepbystep wrote:corvus wrote:Implication sbs implication with perhaps a greenish tinge eh!!
corvus
What about the implications for what's left of life in the Savage River corvus??
Wow one spill and the river is stuffed![]()
nice flow of water in the Savage which will increase this weekend I believe why do you always need to take the anti job angle yet sook about other job losses
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corvus
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Sat 16 Mar, 2013 6:11 am
corvus wrote:cotvus
Sat 16 Mar, 2013 12:10 pm
photohiker wrote:Closing it down wouldn't help. The tailings dam is already there and has to be managed for YEARS with or without an active mine.
Multiply this ongoing and regular issue by the number of mines allowed into ecologically sensitive areas.
Repeat history, never learn from it.
Sat 16 Mar, 2013 5:37 pm
Sat 16 Mar, 2013 5:56 pm
ILUVSWTAS wrote:corvus wrote:cotvus
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Sat 16 Mar, 2013 8:27 pm
taswegian wrote:I remember many years ago hiring a tinny and rowing up the Pieman from Corinna. Would it have been the Whyte River? It reeked of sulphur.
The King is still trying hard to recover.
It's inevitable that one day some mine will have an accidental spill. Changing climatic conditions, flash flooding. All signs of the times.
People that travel the better, remote, untouched etc often are greatly touched by the beauty of our natural world and then look about at the concoctions we make of the 'developed' world and wonder.
Do that enough and it sort of clings to the soul.
I do and I imagine the likes of SBS and others also.
We can argue things do recover. But when one looks around it is often a superficial recovery. Scratch the surface and things take on a different appearance.
We do need people gainfully employed. Justifying ventures on those grounds doesn't to me justify the venture.
Tasmanians bemoan our brain drain. I wonder how many go because we don't offer encouragement and support to these people to extend us beyond our traditional ways of life and propel us into the future?
Sun 17 Mar, 2013 6:18 am
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Sun 17 Mar, 2013 8:00 pm
Nuts wrote:(not a response to the previous few posts, just been checking out a few google grabs on this)
.. expecting (from the initial 'news'grab) no good newsI found the EPA response here interesting:
http://www.themercury.com.au/article/20 ... -news.html
who do you choose to believe?
Is some insight from here food for thought (?):
http://www.tasmanianmining.com.au/minin ... nvironment
(not saying such mistakes are acceptable mind.. not at all.. but it did just take a few minutes to at least suspect.. all may not be completely 'brown')
Sun 17 Mar, 2013 8:02 pm
stepbystep wrote:EPA = toothless and ineffective tiger. Mining Industry spin, meh!
They have had to improve their business model because they came from such a disgustingly low base. No doubt the methods are better, but they are not infallible.
One mine can kill a river, and it has.
Sun 17 Mar, 2013 8:37 pm
stepbystep wrote:[q
Name one post where I have 'sooked' about job losses, I can point to plenty where the likes of you have pointed to 'future job gains' to justify more mining in the region.
Where did I say it's "stuffed"? Your language is becoming more and more alarmist. Check out what sulphur can do to a river system and then comment perhaps..??
stepbystep wrote:All good and well, however I'm most certainly in the 10% that could benefit most greatly from an expanded private sector, including an expanded mining industry. As a small business owner I get zero government incentive packages or tax concessions(unlike mining and forestry), I struggle to employ others due to regulatory red tape imposed on me by the government thus making it very difficult for me to expand my business which I most certainly would given some incentives.
No-one sees my potential as an employer as important or that of many of my colleagues in the same industry. My industry gets scant funding or attention from the powers that be and it is left languishing as an also ran where it has infinite potential for expansion. Talented young technicians, writers and artists that could be employed in my sector disappear to the mainland because of the lack of opportunity people like myself could give them IF we were given some of the attention afforded to the traditional industries like mining, fishing, agriculture and fishing.
And therin lies my point, constantly our attention is being drawn to these sectors when for example 'The Arts' as an industry is one of Tasmanias best performers. How much time do we get on the floor of parliament?
Sun 17 Mar, 2013 10:38 pm
geoskid wrote:stepbystep wrote:EPA = toothless and ineffective tiger. Mining Industry spin, meh!
They have had to improve their business model because they came from such a disgustingly low base. No doubt the methods are better, but they are not infallible.
One mine can kill a river, and it has.
Your cognitive bias is showing SBS.
Sun 17 Mar, 2013 10:43 pm
corvus wrote:stepbystep wrote:[q
Name one post where I have 'sooked' about job losses, I can point to plenty where the likes of you have pointed to 'future job gains' to justify more mining in the region.
Where did I say it's "stuffed"? Your language is becoming more and more alarmist. Check out what sulphur can do to a river system and then comment perhaps..??
stepbystep wrote:All good and well, however I'm most certainly in the 10% that could benefit most greatly from an expanded private sector, including an expanded mining industry. As a small business owner I get zero government incentive packages or tax concessions(unlike mining and forestry), I struggle to employ others due to regulatory red tape imposed on me by the government thus making it very difficult for me to expand my business which I most certainly would given some incentives.
No-one sees my potential as an employer as important or that of many of my colleagues in the same industry. My industry gets scant funding or attention from the powers that be and it is left languishing as an also ran where it has infinite potential for expansion. Talented young technicians, writers and artists that could be employed in my sector disappear to the mainland because of the lack of opportunity people like myself could give them IF we were given some of the attention afforded to the traditional industries like mining, fishing, agriculture and fishing.
And therin lies my point, constantly our attention is being drawn to these sectors when for example 'The Arts' as an industry is one of Tasmanias best performers. How much time do we get on the floor of parliament?
A bit of a sook in this post I believe.
corvus
Sun 17 Mar, 2013 11:51 pm
stepbystep wrote:Yes you are so right Corvus far be it from me to expect a level playing field in the business world...
Mon 18 Mar, 2013 8:44 am
stepbystep wrote:Oops, Sulphur leaking from a tailings dam into the Savage River, danger to health of the river and marine life.
Just as well as there is only one mine there and it has an 'award winning' record for environmental management.....
Can't wait for more mines, won't that be great for jobs
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Fri 22 Mar, 2013 6:23 am
Taurë-rana wrote:Wow, that's scary
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Fri 22 Mar, 2013 8:14 pm
Hallu wrote:Well especially when they say "may" so many times, whereas just asking around or investigating down river would have given them a definitive answer...
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