Peakbagging Discussion (Australia Wide)

[frenchy_84]

You could have a never ending discussion on the 'worthiness' of the past/current/future (please NO) lists its just one of those things that no ones ever going to agree on, just dont take the list to seriously.

[ILUVSWTAS]

Yep spot on Frenchy!

It's just an excuse to go bushwalking, and something bushwalking related to do when your not bushwalking.

[climberman]

there is a NSW list published in book form. Can't remember the name of it for the life of me, but it's in the bushwalking shop in Wollongong. I'll try and remember to write down the name of it when I'm in there next and report back.

[climberman]

And more on the conversation side of the thread - I love the idea of peakbagging. I don't do it, but it's a very reasonable way to get excited about going to places you might otherwise not. I have found climbing, MTB, skiing, surfing and flyfishing to be similar drives to get to a certain area, which then reveals other secrets (or horrors!) when you get there.

I have set myself some other goals that are very numerical this calendar year, with a similar aim - to get myself out and about when I might otherwise roll back into the doona, or relent to a weekend of shopping and housework (for the record, I am aiming at 100 surfs, 50 sessions fishing, 10 overnight camp nights with the kids, 10 days skiing and 20 MTB sessions. Half way in and I am behind, but I didn't set the goal until early May so am kinda OK with it. No walking you say - but ahhh, that's the beauty of the 'combination activity' !).

[ILUVSWTAS]

Good on you Climberman!!

[stu]

I think the very first list only had 6

Anne
Frenchmans
Geryon
Federation
Roland
PB

Nice.
One list down & a whole lot more scrub to go

[ILUVSWTAS]

I think the very first list only had 6

Anne
Frenchmans
Geryon
Federation
Roland
PB

Nice.
One list down & a whole lot more scrub to go

Hahaha nice.... i've only done 3 and a half of the 6 peaks on that list....

[mjdalessa]

Ok, so with this Australia wide list.

What about a seventy summits list, 10 per state including northern territory? 1 has to be the highest per state, with admirable and hence difficult mountains following. Maybe include a landmark mountain or two per state as well to balance the list?

Feel free to publish your ideas so we can get a little list together with everyones imput. Heres my idea for Tassie.

1:Ossa
2: Geryon (Not sure which peak)
3: Federation
4: Frenchmans
5: Diamond Peak
6: Precipitous bluff
7: Anne
8: Cradle Mountain
9: Acropolis?
10: Wellington (Sucks that there's a road to the top, but a landmark all the least.)

Imput from people in other states would be good.

[pazzar]

Mt Woodroffe in SA isn't much more than a bump in the desert yet is the highest peak, not very challenging for a would-be peak bagger I would imagine. I also believe that it is very difficult to attain access to the top of it due to Aboriginal land protection - I imagine this is much the same for many NT peaks, and if you want landmark peaks on there, Uluru would be one, and in my belief it is disrespectful for us to be climbing these peaks that hold special significance to the indigineous people of the area.

I'm not saying this is a bad idea, just there are some boundaries in the way that would prevent it.

[mjdalessa]

I understand where your coming from. I didnt go to the actual top of sonder because of this, and we probably shouldn't be encouraging others to do it. A shame though, really down grades some aspects of a potential list.

[johnw]

What about a seventy summits list, 10 per state including northern territory? 1 has to be the highest per state, with admirable and hence difficult mountains following. Maybe include a landmark mountain or two per state as well to balance the list?

Feel free to publish your ideas so we can get a little list together with everyones input.

Isn't this topic in the wrong forum? I guess this is going to be biased to whatever each person has done. From those I've climbed here's my own selection for NSW, but there are many I've yet to visit which could topple some from the list. Hope I didn't forget any more worthy contenders.

NSW:

1. Mt Kosciuszko (a relative doddle but you said highest first)
2. Mt Townsend
3. The Sentinel
4. Pigeon House Mountain
5. Mt Tate
8. Mt Solitary
6. Central Ramshead
7. North Ramshead
9. Mt Mouin
10. Mt Banks

It's a start...

[isoma]

Some interesting discussion in this thread mjdallesa ...

Firstly - surely the serious peakbaggers saying the peakbagging list isn't to be taken too seriously cant be serious can they ?

Secondly - I have to confess that Im a peakbagging tragic (Queensland based with the yearly excursion or 2 to Tassie) and like you I find the point system a bit confusing with seemingly inconsistent values, omissions and inclusions. But ..., it is what it is, and I for one have wasted many hours examining it and planning potential trips.

Thirdly - what about the poor old ACT in your list of summits ? They have some hills dont they ?

Fourthly - johnw - having not been to the majority of peaks on your NSW list I was wondering whether there would be room to squeeze in The Castle and Mt Warning?

Finally - I guess I should contribute some sort of a list for QLD then.... let me get back to you on that one

[mjdalessa]

Ok, Maybe 8 then. But 5 only for ACT, which makes most peaks per land area. 10 peaks per other areas.
Tasmania
Victoria
ACT
NSW
Queensland
Northern Territory
South Australia
WA

Must include:
Highest
Your opinion of the hardest
(As the guy further above pointed out, try to avoid aboriginal sites.

[JamesMc]

OK, here's a Victorian list

Mt Bogong (highest)
Mt Feathertop (prettiest)
Mt Singapore (furthest from the road)
The Cathedral (@Buffalo hardest rock scramble)
Five Mile Peak (furthest scrub bash)
The Fortress
The Viking
Mt Cobberas
Mt Wilson
Snowy Bluff

As for ACT, Bimberi Pk is the highest, would it count if you climbed it from NSW?

JamesMc

[Bodysurfer]

Other Victorian contenders would include:

Mt Howitt (definitely on any list)
Mt Wellington
Mt Cobbler
The Crinoline
Mt McDonald
Something from the Grampians (is that Fortress Peak?)

It's hard to think of any Victorian mountains that couldn't be done as a day trip. Snowy Bluff might be one. Gable End?

Where the hell is Mt Singapore?

- J

[johnw]

Fourthly - johnw - having not been to the majority of peaks on your NSW list I was wondering whether there would be room to squeeze in The Castle and Mt Warning?

Yes isoma, by all accounts both of those would be admirable inclusions. I simply restricted my list to only those I have personally done. I passed up the opportunity to climb Mt Warning a few years back, because of the controversy/traditional owners' request that people should not climb it. Not sure how I feel about that in hindsight, given that Australia is my own land of birth. But at the time I felt uncomfortable about it. Mt Jagungal in the Snowy Mtns is possibly another one that should be in the list, but again I've yet to do it. Actually I'm already thinking of modifying my list as others come to mind .

[stu]

Ok, so with this Australia wide list.

What about a seventy summits list, 10 per state including northern territory? 1 has to be the highest per state, with admirable and hence difficult mountains following. Maybe include a landmark mountain or two per state as well to balance the list?

Feel free to publish your ideas so we can get a little list together with everyones imput. Heres my idea for Tassie.

1:Ossa
2: Geryon (Not sure which peak)
3: Federation
4: Frenchmans
5: Diamond Peak
6: Precipitous bluff
7: Anne
8: Cradle Mountain
9: Acropolis?
10: Wellington (Sucks that there's a road to the top, but a landmark all the least.)

Imput from people in other states would be good.

Hmm, I think there are many more possibilities over Wellington, proximity to Hobart not being enough of a selling point IMHO.
Same with Diamond Peak, a great little peak but worthy of the states top 10? Not so sure...
It would have to be Geryon North (higher @ 1507 over 1500), tho the Southern summit is a more exciting 'walk'.

Pelion West?
Coronation Peak?
Eldon Bluff?
Olympus?
Roland?
Stacks Bluff?
Pindars Peak?
La Perouse?
Wylds Craig?
Rugby?
....

Just thinking out aloud, too many 'classics', I do like the concept tho...

[frenchy_84]

no diamond peak! seems like you have just gone for 'big' ones stu, what about the ones that require a challenge/effort to get there. i would definatly have diamond peak in there as well as the spires.

*EDIT, See this is what i mean about questioning the list, it could be a never ending discussion

[pazzar]

There are so many to choose from, i think it should combine both effort and accessibility, I would still include Diamond Peak though.
My top 10:

1. Ossa
2. Federation
3. Geryon Nth
4. Frenchmans Cap
5. Pelion West
6. Diamond Peak
7. Anne
8. Eldon Bluff
9. Precipitous Bluff
10. Murchison

There are so many others I'd like to consider as the 10 best in Tassie, Picton, Nevada, Pindars, Amos, Stacks, Roland, Jerusalem, Olympus, Rufus, Cradle, Barn, Snow Hill . I think Cradle, even though it is a significant drawcard to the state, does not compare with Pelion West or Ossa for views.

[stepbystep]

There are so many to choose from, i think it should combine both effort and accessibility, I would still include Diamond Peak though.
My top 10:

1. Ossa
2. Federation
3. Geryon Nth
4. Frenchmans Cap
5. Pelion West
6. Diamond Peak
7. Anne
8. Eldon Bluff
9. Precipitous Bluff
10. Murchison

I like this list but I'd piff Murcho and stick in Pindars or maybe Greystone Bluff or Coronation Peak or........stupid lists
But it get's me thinking if we're making lists a top 10 walks list would be nice, no peaks from the Western Arthurs make this list but it's arguably the best walk in Tasmania.....

[frenchy_84]

I like pazzars list cause Murcho made it, West coast range is a nice range where one peak deserves an inclusion. Pindars is a nice peak (i prefer it over PB) but i dont think that range deserves 2 inclusions. And surely geryon south over north even if north is higher.

AHHH talking about *&%$#! lists, i cant help myself. must go to pub!

[JamesMc]

Other Victorian contenders would include:

It's hard to think of any Victorian mountains that couldn't be done as a day trip. Snowy Bluff might be one. Gable End?

Where the hell is Mt Singapore?

- J

Mt Singapore is at the north eastern tip of Wilsons Prom. It's about 20 km walk from the 5 Mile Road car park, so it's definitely more than a day trip if you don't have a boat. So are most other peaks at the 'Prom.

JamesMc

[steveh72]

Not sure if this has been covered before, but reading the thread where people cover off their own state, has any one done a combined top 10 for Oz.

?????

Steve

[andrewbish]

Mt Singapore is at the north eastern tip of Wilsons Prom. It's about 20 km walk from the 5 Mile Road car park, so it's definitely more than a day trip if you don't have a boat. So are most other peaks at the 'Prom.
JamesMc

At 147 metres its clearly not on your list for the panoramic views!

[JamesMc]

At 147 metres its clearly not on your list for the panoramic views!

Actually the view from Mt Singapore is pretty good. It's at the end of a peninsula so it's out by itself, and has great views over Corner Inlet and the islands east of it. Most of the other peaks at Wilsons Prom are covered with forest (or at least were before the bush fires) and don't have any views, so Mt Singapore is one of the best. It's also a peak that VERY few people get to, as in many years between visits.

JamesMc

[andrewbish]

Sounds good. Got any pics?

[JamesMc]

Sounds good. Got any pics?

Here it is.
JamesMc

[andrewbish]

Yup, that's a nice view alright.

Ok, Prom northern section inc. Mt Singapore goes on my hit list...

[isoma]

I guess I should contribute some sort of a list for QLD then....

Bartle Frere - states highest
Barney - needs no introduction
Bowen - Barney on water (Hinchinbrook Island)
Beerwah - biggest of the iconic Glasshouse Mountains
Bithongabel -starts with a B and is the highest point in Lamington (I think). This could be replaced by something more epic like Widgee or Razorback /Lost World
Bald Rock - but thats in NSW I hear you say ...OK then, Mt Norman (highest peak in Girraween)
I'm out of significant Bs but Ballow, Bellenden Kerr, Beau Brummel and Barrabool wouldnt be too far off the mark.
Insert any one of a number of Main Range peaks here - Asplenium/Huntley/Spicers/Wilsons/Castle etc.
Thornton Peak - ? highest/best of the Daintree mountains
Lindesay - for a bit of excietment
If theres something worthy between Fraser Is and Mackay/Townsville you could put it here.

[north-north-west]

I think the very first list only had 6

Anne
Frenchmans
Geryon
Federation
Roland
PB

Wow, I'm already 1/3 of the way through . . .