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Total Fire Ban

Postby tibboh » Mon 13 Jan, 2014 4:48 pm

With a total fire ban in southern Tas tomorrow, does this mean no using your fuel stove to cook up a meal or cuppa?
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Re: Total Fire Ban

Postby ofuros » Mon 13 Jan, 2014 4:58 pm

The info is there tibboh, just have to dig a bit deeper, 2nd paragraph below the graph.......http://www.fire.tas.gov.au/Show?pageId=colFireOutdoor
another page that backs that up....http://www.fire.tas.gov.au/Show?pageId=colFireBan

Having found all that, if its a day trip or overnighter, I'd err on the side of caution & pack a thermos or cheese & crackers etc etc,
just to cover my @#$% in the extreme conditions. I wouldn't want to be the bushwalker who set thousands of acres of National Park ablaze....
or be the ignition source for the destruction of peoples homes & lives, just because I wanted a hot cuppa-noodles.
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Re: Total Fire Ban

Postby Nuts » Mon 13 Jan, 2014 5:31 pm

If you search back, this has been evolving over several years. These regulations now make more practical sense.

So then it's a shame to see this tacked on: Subject to Environmental Regulations & Local Government By-Laws & any restrictions in parks & reserves.
Ok, fair enough, but for people planning walks in parks then they didn't just get their definitive answer from the TFS site..

I guess ideally the next step would be for a parks representative to be proactive in letting everyone know what to expect. What signage is being spread around and what is actual Policy rather than individual interpretation. I'll have to get to search the Tas parks site, sure it'll be there in black and white somewhere.

I hear there has already been some confusion.
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Re: Total Fire Ban

Postby Nuts » Mon 13 Jan, 2014 5:40 pm

I can help start off:

Freycinet:

Freycinet is a fuel stove preferred area as it is very dry and vulnerable to fire. No fires are allowed in the national park. Gas and fuel stoves may be used at all campsites except on days of Total Fire Ban. On days of Total Fire Ban, no naked flames of any sort, including gas and fuel stoves are allowed in the open. The electric barbecues provided at Ranger Creek and Honeymoon Bay picnic areas can be used for cooking on these days.
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Re: Total Fire Ban

Postby tigercat » Tue 14 Jan, 2014 2:11 pm

Thanks raising this one, I did not realise jetboils were included in a total fire ban
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Re: Total Fire Ban

Postby headwerkn » Wed 15 Jan, 2014 9:22 am

Might be worth mentioning for those not aware, that the Total Fire Ban was extended to the entire state late last night. Gonna be a couple of hot ones... though spare a thought for our mainland cousins dealing with days of 40-degrees-plus. Just spoke with one client in the Yarra Valley, he's in full-on fire protect mode. Scary stuff.

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Re: Total Fire Ban

Postby andrewp » Wed 15 Jan, 2014 12:35 pm

It seems that gas stoves are allowed on total fire ban days in Tas. It doesn't apply to other states as far as I know (certainly not in Vic anyway).

From http://www.fire.tas.gov.au/Show?pageId=colFireOutdoor
Bushwalkers are therefore advised that the only cooking appliance that can be used on Total Fire Ban Days are LPG (Butane or Propane) cookers or stoves providing that they are clear of any flammable material for a distance of 1 metre.
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Re: Total Fire Ban

Postby DaveNoble » Wed 15 Jan, 2014 4:31 pm

andrewp wrote:It seems that gas stoves are allowed on total fire ban days in Tas. It doesn't apply to other states as far as I know (certainly not in Vic anyway).

From http://www.fire.tas.gov.au/Show?pageId=colFireOutdoor
Bushwalkers are therefore advised that the only cooking appliance that can be used on Total Fire Ban Days are LPG (Butane or Propane) cookers or stoves providing that they are clear of any flammable material for a distance of 1 metre.


Thanks for finding that out.

In NSW gas stoves are not permitted during total fire bans except if they have been installed by council or NPWS.

However, during times of park fire bans, which are often in place for many National parks here in NSW, gas stoves are permitted - as long as there is a clearing and water is available. This is overwritten however if a total fire ban is declared.

I also understand that smoking is not permitted outside on total fire bans days - although this seems to be rarely policed.

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