Tasmania specific bushwalking discussion.
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Mon 16 Nov, 2015 9:10 am
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A LUXURY camp in the Walls of Jerusalem national park and an extension to Freycinet Lodge are two of four projects to make it to the next stage of the State Government’s EOI process.
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Is anyone else starting to get worried?
http://www.themercury.com.au/lifestyle/national-parks-eoi-process-four-more-proposals-make-it-to-next-stage/story-fnj64obd-1227609903213
Mon 16 Nov, 2015 11:12 am
Starting to get worried? We started when this government was elected. We're well into the first act of the play.
Mon 16 Nov, 2015 11:46 am
Starting to get worried? We started when this government was elected. We're well into the first act of the play.
Absolutely NNW. I've been worried from the start
Mon 16 Nov, 2015 12:45 pm
Thornbill wrote:Starting to get worried? We started when this government was elected. We're well into the first act of the play.
Absolutely NNW. I've been worried from the start
Correction:
more worried
Mon 16 Nov, 2015 7:15 pm
I don't necessarily agree with development in these areas (particularly WOJ) but I think I could handle any, or all, of these going ahead with the exception of the helicopter proposal.
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Tue 17 Nov, 2015 12:46 pm
Not a lot of love for the current government or their 'mandate' but then nobody else has or will shut this down. Always been a lingering possibility. Too much faith in one's party of choice.
A plebiscite/ referendum on wilderness 'use', conclusions backdated to fix mistakes (the various players will be well paid either way, whether they intend to take up offers or sit on them as assets

thanks very much indeed for that..) An inquiry into the various deals done? There hasn't been a more pressing domestic conservation concern in this state, greed, diminished ideals. Ironically but inevitably also aided by those prepared to put up any random patch of wilderness as worthy of WHA status.
anyhow.. how many and what projects
haven't been approved?, on what basis, what is the 'process', what role do professional land managers play in this process?

concerned citizen he be.
Tue 17 Nov, 2015 9:41 pm
I find all this pretty disturbing too but it doesn't seem to get any press on the mainland, or have I just missed it? I have been working crazy hours.
Wed 18 Nov, 2015 7:19 am
The ABC are probably the most consistent reporters of the issue, but you might have to go trawling on their website to find the articles. Guardian and SMH also mention it occasionally. Murdoch press generally ignores it or puts the pro-development spin on everything.
Wed 18 Nov, 2015 9:59 am
A - ringing of the tills .corks a poppin..money,money,money....
Wed 18 Nov, 2015 10:53 am
north-north-west wrote:The ABC are probably the most consistent reporters of the issue, but you might have to go trawling on their website to find the articles. Guardian and SMH also mention it occasionally. Murdoch press generally ignores it or puts the pro-development spin on everything.
Thanks NNW ABC and Guardian etc would be my usual sources of news obviously spending ridiculous amounts of time at work means I've become quite out of touch.
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 6:21 pm
Ok so while I've been home sick in bed today I tried to read a bit more about these proposals. I followed a link on the Parks website to the Coordinator General's Office
http://www.cg.tas.gov.au/home/investmen ... ject_table. Have to say I find the lack of detail in the proposals quite unsettling surely there's more to it than this?
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 10:41 pm
I'm very disappointed with the Narawntapu Adventure Precinct. I was afraid, given the popularity of the park with families, that it was gonna come to this. Why does the park need horse riding... It's a small park that you can easily explore on foot, and it's full of wildlife that horses may disturb.
I think Australia should take the US in example. The US usually focus on one area only for their lodges, often on the edge of the parks, and strictly forbid building inside of them. There are campgrounds, but they don't push towards "luxury campgrounds" and "luxury great walks" like Tassie is doing... They even forbid flying over specific areas (whether it's helicopters or regular flights). Tassie has a great potential for tourism WITHOUT all these high end things... Bushland is everywhere in Tassie, don't tell me you can't find beautiful locations OUTSIDE of National Parks to have great lodges and horse riding paddocks ?
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 5:44 am
Hallu wrote:I think Australia should take the US in example. The US usually focus on one area only for their lodges, often on the edge of the parks, and strictly forbid building inside of them. There are campgrounds, but they don't push towards "luxury campgrounds" and "luxury great walks" like Tassie is doing... They even forbid flying over specific areas (whether it's helicopters or regular flights). Tassie has a great potential for tourism WITHOUT all these high end things...
Yes, this is the way to go, and it's been the astandard in Tassie - and mostly throughout Australia - so far, but the anti-environmental lobby (plus certain vested interests) have been doing a lot of shouting and pushing.
Bushland is everywhere in Tassie, don't tell me you can't find beautiful locations OUTSIDE of National Parks to have great lodges and horse riding paddocks ?
Plenty. Again, as in the mainland, there are state forests and other areas of crown land where these activities can be done. The problem is, the best country is mostly within National Parks, and some people distort the 'NPs are for everyone' line. They are, of course, but some people refuse to accept that there are limits on what they can do there, or where they can do it. They conflate free access with development because it's just too hard to have to drive for half an hour to get to that lookout, or to have to walk rather than sit on a horse or in a 4wd. And you cannot get through to them that what they want to do will destroy the place, sooner or later. They don't care about the long term, only about
them getting to see and do what they want - like the walkers who *&%$#! all over the place and light fires in sensitive areas.
Gee some people *&^%$#! me off.
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 6:01 am
Yes some don't get it, others choose not too, it's convenient and micro-lucrative. Iv'e just caught the latest .. progress.. of the same in Vic and one thought bubble has me (Mark's sig): "Perfection is attained not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing more to remove". To me this has only one translation, i'm sure to others it means trees, hardship, limits.. integrity.. etc.
Hermione, no there's not a lot more public info available, precious little more is available even to those the public would expect should know. Don't be underwhelmed, the EOI outcome is a dictate, the 'process' can be seen as merely a tedium. The right of response available by submission in this process was a Joke.
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