Bushwalk Australia

Does anyone know if there's a track up Western Bluff (peak on the Great Western Tiers near Mole Creek)?

Wello

The Abels talks of one off the Urks loop road.

I'm sure the walking club goes in off Urks Loop...about half way around....follows up Kansas Creek(shown on 1:25000 maps)....then across section of plateau.

We did Western Bluff yesterday.
Looking at the maps it made much more sense to me to attempt it from the plateau along the Lake Mckenzie road. It was around 6k's away, but started much much higher than the track.

Proved to be a much better option as we were on the summit in around 2 hrs. The walking was delightfully open and easy. We even passed a cairn or 2 in one section.

Any good spots for camping?

Plenty.
Lots of nice grassy areas all over the place. Creeks and ponds were also plentiful

I was at Cradle Mtn yesterday and looking eastwards I was thinking i could see Western Bluff - almost 30 km away
Does this sound right? What other landmark could I have been looking at?

I would say you were looking at WB.
It is a very prominent landscape formation from many areas.

Thanks taswegian

I thought I had posted a pic but it didn't come across.
I'll try again soon.

Thanks again

Thanks to ILUVSWTAS for the GPS track, I had a very easy and enjoyable walk across to Western Bluff to mark new year's day. 6km of roughly flat walking has to beat 700m of climbing! It was windy and cool (wore a beanie most of the day!). I saw some cairns too, looked like they were running from the summit toward Lake Mackenzie, but fairly well spaced and little in the way of a pad between them.

Great colour in the scoparia up there too, shame about all the logging you can see from the top.

Wello

Nice Wello, seems like a great walk if you're keen for a ramble along the plateau.

Finally got around to posting the photo I took from Cradle.
I guess this is Western Bluff?

Certainly looks like Western bluff.
Great shot of February plains in the middle distance too.

sirius Tas wrote:I'm sure the walking club goes in off Urks Loop...about half way around....follows up Kansas Creek(shown on 1:25000 maps)....then across section of plateau.

Hi

I did the climb this way with the LWC but the start of the track was missed until it hit the remains of an old hut just before the cliffs. My fading memory from five years ago is a bit suspect so does anyone have the GPX trace of that way or just the starting waypoint as the track is reasonably clear on the ground. I am interested in going this way as I believe from memory it has one of the few rare water courses that splits on the downward side.

Cheers

sirius Tas wrote:I'm sure the walking club goes in off Urks Loop...about half way around....follows up Kansas Creek(shown on 1:25000 maps)....then across section of plateau.

Um? Like the Overland Track is in Tasmania?

Ok time for better instructions. The track start is about one plus kilometres further on from Kanas Creek if you come up from the Devil Gullet side. The is a small opening and flat land with bit of tape around. As it is a old Forestry track and well marked I will put it up on OSM for those that understand GPS.

Warning. Urks Road is not suitable for cars, in fact a "proper" 4wd is required and still expect scratched paint work and be aware that the bridge over Kanas Creek has a hole where a log has rotted through. Best to come up the other way and park where the road splits and walk. Though you well get very wet feet and be attacked by a legion of leeches. Yet once on the track leech count drops.

Oh yes, if you do come in from the Devil Gullet side about two hundred and fifty metres on the right is a flat area you can park. There is a set of walking polls. Err? Be appreciated if you could PM as they are much missed.

Cheers

Any chance of co-ords as I'm totally lost.

Have a look on OSM. I've put in Urks Loop and the walking track as far as it could be followed into the snow. It starts about 1km past Kansas Creek (assuming you come in from the southern end of Urks Loop)

sthughes wrote:Have a look on OSM. I've put in Urks Loop and the walking track as far as it could be followed into the snow. It starts about 1km past Kansas Creek (assuming you come in from the southern end of Urks Loop)

Many thanks for that info....it's the first time I've been to OSM...quite interesting. Is it possible to download the actual gpx file?
So far I could get individual co-ords along various routes, but would be handy to actually get gpx files.
BTW sorry for my ignorance but completely new to OSM.
Many thanks sthughes...cheers.

sirius Tas wrote:

sthughes wrote:Have a look on OSM. I've put in Urks Loop and the walking track as far as it could be followed into the snow. It starts about 1km past Kansas Creek (assuming you come in from the southern end of Urks Loop)

Many thanks for that info....it's the first time I've been to OSM...quite interesting. Is it possible to download the actual gpx file?
So far I could get individual co-ords along various routes, but would be handy to actually get gpx files.
BTW sorry for my ignorance but completely new to OSM.
Many thanks sthughes...cheers.

I think you can, sort of. All too hard for me though! If you PM me your email I can send it to you

Better still, try this link:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sthughes/traces/1502622

Hi

Depending on your GPS should be able to help you out with a img of Tassie. It is still very much a work in progress.

Cheers

sthughes wrote:Better still, try this link:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sthughes/traces/1502622

Yep all ok....very much appreciated....cheers ST.

For other likely users of this track, I found a complete gpx file at...
http://tastracks.webs.com/greatwesternt ... #587094225

The above link is a top site with many tracks in detail.

Good find. Bet giving it a good look. Ps the walking poles are much missed.

Hi Ent,
Hope to be going there in the next couple of weeks...so if poles still there I'll certainly return them. I've already got some...lol.
Got some walking to complete along Dooleys Trail Wilmot first..then over to WB.
BTW...does the track need any/much work done on it with regards to fallen logs or trees?

Hi Sirius Tas

Track is clear of logs but hiding in a few ferns are the ends of some very big logs so be careful of assuming that you are only pushing through a fern. As mentioned the bridge over Kanas Creek has a log running parallel to the road missing so you could wedge a wheel or worst on that. The main issue is ground clearance with a few 400mm drops. Plus mud in a few sections that might count against a heavier 4wd.

I would not think that the full loop would worry greatly a person use to 4wd tracks but not for cars nor car like 4wd or people that have just brought their new toy.

Be great to get your GPX tracks. I think that the walks you mentioned are up on OSM. I have pushed out a rough draft of OSM maps for Garmins on the techno babble section.

Yes I am having pole separation issues.

Cheers and have fun.

No worries....I'll see how I go with 4wd....used to rough tracks etc so should be ok.
I'll take my trusty slash hook with me and do as much cleaning as I can..both in and out.
I think all the Dooleys Trails are now on the latest LIST mapping as well.....they mostly just follow the river, but have a few crossings to avoid the private property.
Would have been a perfect day up there today, but will wait until completing the Wilmot walks...so expect it'll be early August before I get up there.

Hi Sirius,
The Western Creek track is pretty well maintained but for a handful of trees across it, most of which have been down a good while and would need at least a decent bow saw (and more sensibly a chain saw) to clear. But none are a problem to go around. It's well taped too for the most part. The only bit we found vague was due to snow cover on the day.
Urks Road is nice and clear, apart from, like Ent said, a few overhanging man ferns etc, one of which concealed a log - but don't worry I think I cleared that with my front left wheel guard! It's not that rough, we made it through in pouring rain in a Mitsubishi Outlander, well most of the Outy made it through anyway! All the mud has a solid bottom, although it does conceal the odd little hole as you'd expect.

P.s. good to see a new OSM mapper by your name has signed up! It's a great little project and more contributors will really help it reach a critical mass so to speak

Hi sthughes,
I'll take the small stihl ms170 with me up the track and see how I go. Will clear what's needed on the way in too.
I'll come in on the northern side of Urks Loop...as it seems the walking clubs go that way.....so will clear it as I go.
Thanks for all the info...cheers..ST.

Just for people's interest, I headed up here on Thursday on a beautiful but cold day.

Urks Loop Road has fallen into some pretty dire disrepair. My step-dad had ventured up there in 2012 or 2013 and drove up in a Honda CR-V which made it easily, however now driving in a 1992 Mazda Bravo with very good clearance it took some handy 4wd-ing to get to the start of the trail. There is a lot of overhanging trees and bush and lots of very deep ruts (we even bottomed out once!) so you'll need a 4WD where you don't care for the outcome of the car's body

However once on the walking trail itself it was fantastically clear and seemingly recently taped. There is a little bit of uncertainty around where the track crosses Kansas Creek but its pretty easy to work out. The pad leads you easily into the gully/ravine which is quite a beautiful location especially with the semi frozen Marakoopa Creek pouring over dolerite shale. From there it is an easy off-track-alpine walk to the summit cairn/trig station. recommended.