Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Tasmania specific bushwalking discussion.
Forum rules
Tasmania specific bushwalking discussion. Please avoid publishing details of access to sensitive areas with no tracks.

Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby sthughes » Thu 12 May, 2011 9:35 am

Well it looks like it's going to be a big year for the rescue helicopter boys:

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/news/local/news/business/chopper-rescue-at-the-leven/2160064.aspx
THE Westpac Police Rescue Helicopter picked up four walkers after an EPIRB was activated just after 10am this morning.

The four experienced bushwalkers became trapped after finding themselves in an impassable area of the Leven River, south of the Leven Canyon.

The walkers were all middle aged men from Hobart.

The helicopter took the walkers to Devonport.


There is a much more in depth report in the printed version of todays Agrovate. Basically they reached an area washed out be recent floods and found themselves unable to go forward or back so popped their PLB. Seems a bit strange really.
"Don't do today what you can put off 'till tomorrow." (Work that is!)
User avatar
sthughes
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 2414
Joined: Wed 05 Mar, 2008 12:53 pm
Location: Ulverstone
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Thu 12 May, 2011 9:39 am

Is that on part of the Penguin-Cradle trail??

I always find it odd that people reach a point that they cannot go forward nor back. Were they on the side of a cliff? Be interesting to hear more about this!
Nothing to see here.
User avatar
ILUVSWTAS
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11025
Joined: Sun 28 Dec, 2008 9:53 am
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby sthughes » Thu 12 May, 2011 10:48 am

Yeah part of the PCT.

It mentions a cliff but not sure of the details, I don't have the article with me. I would have thought if you can get there you should be able to get back the same way, or should have turned back at that point in the first place. Of course it's very easy to be an armchair critic, especially with bugger all facts and the benefit of hindsight. It would be interesting to here the real story. The rescue people described their getting stranded as being 'through no fault of their own'.
"Don't do today what you can put off 'till tomorrow." (Work that is!)
User avatar
sthughes
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 2414
Joined: Wed 05 Mar, 2008 12:53 pm
Location: Ulverstone
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Nuts » Thu 12 May, 2011 3:04 pm

ILUVSWTAS wrote:I always find it odd that people reach a point that they cannot go forward nor back. Were they on the side of a cliff? Be interesting to hear more about this!


Maybe they just couldn't agree on the direction or werent getting on? :D
User avatar
Nuts
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 8555
Joined: Sat 05 Apr, 2008 12:22 pm
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby doogs » Thu 12 May, 2011 3:11 pm

Nuts wrote:
ILUVSWTAS wrote:I always find it odd that people reach a point that they cannot go forward nor back. Were they on the side of a cliff? Be interesting to hear more about this!


Maybe they just couldn't agree on the direction or werent getting on? :D


Or they realised they wouldn't make it home in time for the much hyped TV premier of 'angry boys'.
Do you want to build a snowman?
User avatar
doogs
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 3649
Joined: Mon 11 Oct, 2010 4:32 pm
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby frenchy_84 » Thu 12 May, 2011 3:16 pm

or round the clock jugs at the pub. you cant go pass a 5 dollar jug. If they had to walk out they may not have got to the pub until 7 and had to pay 7 dollars for a jug... outrageous!
User avatar
frenchy_84
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1510
Joined: Tue 04 Nov, 2008 7:00 pm
Region: Queensland
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby snake » Tue 24 May, 2011 9:42 pm

Hi Guys, just heard about this site , so as one of the "3" ! rescued in the Leven canyon ( 4 th one pulled out at the end of day 2 with a knee injury ) I thought it would be good to give you my account , plus ask some questions regarding the state of the leven section of the track (atrocious !) etc .
First 2 days out of penguin were really good , came across the NWCWC volunteers doing some great work on the penguin end of the track. markers and track could do with some clearing in places , plus camp sites were nearly non-existent. Spent first night beside a road in a pushed up clay pan , did the job no worries , but there were no other options.
Day 2 some good steady walking up and down and then headed into the top of Gunns Plains and down to raod before the 11 km walk to the start of the Leven track , camped just into the walk ( we think it was the camp site ? ) No other sites were found .
Day 3 , started the long , slow and at times very dangerous track along the river bank. We knew it would be tough , but following storms last year ( causing trees down in many locations , sometimes only 10 m apart and advised by the NWCWC volunteers) , plus the wash out over recent storms and floods in April ) it was very slow progress. we covered 7 km in 8 hours walking , and several sections had benn washed out , plus markers were a bit hard to find when they were on fallen trees ?!
We reached Blackwood camp for lunch about 1 pm and saw that the last walker went through on the 5 th April in the log book. Too make Day 4 easier we did another 2 hours to the river Island camp in the arvo, which was very hairy in many patches.
We resolved then we wouldn`t be going back over many of these sections again , as they were dangerous in many situations ! Set up camp and we then received about 4 hours night rain , after having had perfect weather earlier.
Started Day 4 in great spirits , but early on we hit this section of track in narrow decay ( 45 degree angle , half a boot wide , wet with leaves, 80 degree bank above , 30 metre canyon drop below and no other saplings or trees to support any potential slip by hand or foot ! This was all on a section of track which undulated up to 2 m over its lenghth.
It was here that I called a stop , in the interests of "better be safe than sorry !"
We were all well equipped and trained for the walk so fitness was not an issue....and although it is for "experienced " walkers I would say the track is under-estimated in its present condition. I appreciate the volunteer work the NWCWC has done , but govt. really needs to inject some funding $`s into repairing the Leven Canyon / River section of day 3 & 4 , through upgraded markers and clearing the substantial number of fallen trees across the track , and many in difficult positions !
I`m fairly sure the Parks sign at the Lowanna Rd strat to the track states " Loongana 16 hrs return " ...If my memory is correct ?
On our calculations this trip would be at least 26 HRS return , based on current track conditions and hazards !

Based on these facts we therefore took the hard decision to let off the EPIRB , might I say with much regret....I`d love to hear from anyone who has done the full walk from Penguin to Cradle and let me know how they found it ...Who is really responsible for this track`s up-keep and maintenance ? as it is meant to be one of tassie`s 8 Great walks !

Cheers...Snake
snake
Nothofagus cunninghamii
Nothofagus cunninghamii
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Tue 24 May, 2011 8:47 pm
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby tas-man » Tue 24 May, 2011 11:27 pm

snake wrote:<snip>Started Day 4 in great spirits , but early on we hit this section of track in narrow decay ( 45 degree angle , half a boot wide , wet with leaves, 80 degree bank above , 30 metre canyon drop below and no other saplings or trees to support any potential slip by hand or foot ! This was all on a section of track which undulated up to 2 m over its lenghth.
It was here that I called a stop , in the interests of "better be safe than sorry !" <snip>

Cheers...Snake


Thanks snake for providing details of your experience and helping us to understand your reasons for calling it a day. I walked this part of the trail in 2004 and 2007, and my experience of negotiating this section in heavy rain (viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1079&hilit=+leven#p8223) had me on edge approaching it for the second time. This part of the track requires careful and confident boot placement and balance at the best of times, so the weather conditions DO make a significant difference. I can recall the many log crossiings on these tow occasions, but the high winds last year have had a disastrous impact on the condition of the Leven River sections of the track. Does the NWWC PC Trail Committee need wider bushwalking support to get the track back into a satisfactory state? Let this forum membership know what assistance is required and we might be able to marshal some additional manpower.
"The world reveals itself to those who travel on foot."
Werner Herzog
User avatar
tas-man
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1477
Joined: Mon 03 Sep, 2007 8:55 pm
Location: Riverside
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Nuts » Wed 25 May, 2011 12:01 pm

Apparently they were offered 2 helpers, a chainsaw, ticket and expenses back on 26th February. No reponse as yet..
User avatar
Nuts
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 8555
Joined: Sat 05 Apr, 2008 12:22 pm
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Nuts » Wed 25 May, 2011 12:17 pm

I'm not sure who the contact person is, heres the general email address: secretary [at] nwwc.org.au

EDIT by mod - changed email address so that it is not directly linked, in line with rule 6.
User avatar
Nuts
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 8555
Joined: Sat 05 Apr, 2008 12:22 pm
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby jose » Wed 25 May, 2011 9:44 pm

by Nuts » Wed 25 May, 2011 12:01 pm
Apparently they were offered 2 helpers, a chainsaw, ticket and expenses back on 26th February. No reponse as yet..


Do you mean the 2 who offered to help have chainsaw certification tickets as well as chainsaws or that they wanted the NWWC to pay for their tickets and expenses?
The windstorms and floods we have had this year have been particularly rough on the PCT. For insurance reasons, on working bees only volunteers who have their chainsaw certificates are permitted to work with chainsaws. In the meantime maybe there should be stronger warning signs placed at the Gunns Plains and Leven Canyon ends till the track has been cleared.
jose
Athrotaxis cupressoides
Athrotaxis cupressoides
 
Posts: 105
Joined: Wed 03 Sep, 2008 9:55 pm
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Nuts » Wed 25 May, 2011 10:10 pm

Thanks Jose, sent you a message.
Last edited by Nuts on Tue 21 Jun, 2011 9:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Nuts
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 8555
Joined: Sat 05 Apr, 2008 12:22 pm
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Liamy77 » Sat 28 May, 2011 5:53 am

i can understand not going ahead on the track but why didnt you walk out the way you came instead of using the epirb?


seems this trail trips a lot of folk up....
Taggunnah
GRAVITY... IS A HARSH MISTRESS!
knowledge's lighter than gadgets..but gadgets can be fun!
User avatar
Liamy77
Auctorita modica
Auctorita modica
 
Posts: 1552
Joined: Tue 20 Apr, 2010 4:36 pm
Location: Southern Channel, Tas.... but sometimes i leave n walk around elsewhere!
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Woodbridge Organics
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Sat 28 May, 2011 6:18 am

Well how about the Danish guy rescued recently, that one seems to have slipped under the radar. Seems he ran out of food ON A 3 DAY WALK!!!! Called in the chopper to come get him. I mean for the love of..........

How do you not carry enough food for 3 days??? whats worse is he was in a spot thats only a half day walk back to the nearest road.
Nothing to see here.
User avatar
ILUVSWTAS
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11025
Joined: Sun 28 Dec, 2008 9:53 am
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby flyfisher » Sat 28 May, 2011 8:34 am

ILUVSWTAS wrote:Well how about the Danish guy rescued recently, that one seems to have slipped under the radar. Seems he ran out of food ON A 3 DAY WALK!!!! Called in the chopper to come get him. I mean for the love of.........


Yeah, well the weather did cut up a bit, came in southerly last friday. :evil: :evil: :lol:
If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you need to drink more.
User avatar
flyfisher
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1528
Joined: Sat 14 Jul, 2007 8:39 pm
Location: hobart
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: landrover owners club of tasmania
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby doogs » Sat 28 May, 2011 9:03 am

flyfisher wrote:
ILUVSWTAS wrote:Well how about the Danish guy rescued recently, that one seems to have slipped under the radar. Seems he ran out of food ON A 3 DAY WALK!!!! Called in the chopper to come get him. I mean for the love of.........


Yeah, well the weather did cut up a bit, came in southerly last friday. :evil: :evil: :lol:

Maybe the noise from those big waves down there scared him. Have to say not all Danes are that soft. I used to walk with a Danish friend in Scotland, and last night he posted a photo album on facebook entitled "mountaineering south of Kabul". I think I will give that a miss, very pretty but I don't like walking with folk with machine guns!
Do you want to build a snowman?
User avatar
doogs
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 3649
Joined: Mon 11 Oct, 2010 4:32 pm
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Son of a Beach » Sat 28 May, 2011 9:43 am

Liamy77 wrote:i can understand not going ahead on the track but why didnt you walk out the way you came instead of using the epirb?

I was wondering the same thing. I don't want to give anybody a hard time, and I'm glad they made it out OK, but it is a significant point. These emergency beacons are supposed to be for life threatening situations, and from what I've read so far, I don't understand why it would have been life-threatening to go back the way they came. This is not intended to be a criticism, but a genuine query.
Son of a Beach
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 6918
Joined: Thu 01 Mar, 2007 7:55 am
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Bit Map (NIXANZ)
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby plaz » Sat 28 May, 2011 3:04 pm

I thought snake explained in the post that the party felt that track back was dangerous on the way in before the rain and so would be impassable after it.

I am curious if you guys who are worried about the use of s and r are actually involved in it? I am not being antagonistic but would genuinely like to know the views of rescue crew. I know a few Ambo drivers who would much rather be called out to a " better be safe than sorry" call than a "too late "call. I would imagine the rescue chopper is the same - that they would rather get people out who have made a risk assessment based on deteriorating conditions than getting injured walkers out afterwards.

If people carry epirbs then they will be used. The trigger for use will hopefully be before serious outcomes occur. Therefore, if people are using them correctly the majority of rescues will be of uninjured walkers who are in deteriorating situations, which will always bring on the "coulda , shoulda" debate.
Cheers Adrian.
plaz
Nothofagus gunnii
Nothofagus gunnii
 
Posts: 17
Joined: Mon 26 Oct, 2009 10:18 am
Gender: Male

Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby ULWalkingPhil » Sat 28 May, 2011 3:27 pm

Plaz has a good point here.
User avatar
ULWalkingPhil
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 2269
Joined: Wed 05 Jan, 2011 2:14 pm
Region: Queensland

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Son of a Beach » Sat 28 May, 2011 4:13 pm

plaz wrote:I thought snake explained in the post that the party felt that track back was dangerous on the way in before the rain and so would be impassable after it.

I am curious if you guys who are worried about the use of s and r are actually involved in it?


I don't think anyone is worried about the use of search and rescue... certainly not me. I was just querying the need for it as I couldn't figure it out from the post. But you are probably right, in which case I probably didn't read enough into it. Looking back over that post again, I guess you mean this bit:
We resolved then we wouldn`t be going back over many of these sections again , as they were dangerous in many situations ! Set up camp and we then received about 4 hours night rain , after having had perfect weather earlier.


I can't judge from that whether that constitutes an emergency or not, as only those who have been through that track recently can judge just how life threatening that section of track was. So after reading it again, it seems they thought it was that bad, so I'll just have to take their word for it. I certainly have no problems with people using emergency beacons if they are in an emergency situation. I just wasn't sure at first from that post what the emergency was. But you're probably right.
Son of a Beach
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 6918
Joined: Thu 01 Mar, 2007 7:55 am
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Bit Map (NIXANZ)
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Penguin » Sat 28 May, 2011 6:06 pm

Two of us did the Gunn's Plains to to bridge at the floor of the Leven canyon part of the PCT at the end of April, camping overnight at Blackwood Camp. I seem to remember that we wrote in the log book at the Blackwood Camp.

It is not a track for the unwary. We did loose the track for a bit on day 1, heading inland for a bit over a ridge and then finding the track again as we came back down to the river. The track has several unstable sections and there is a lot of fallen timber.

I have to admit that we had a lot of fun, but we have been mucking around on Tasmanian tracks to a number of years. Blackwood camp is a fantastic camp site. We did travel slowly, my hiking partner may have a better idea of how long we spent on track.

I did the track twice about six or seven years ago and it has deteriorated a lot since then. The storms in the last couple of years have done a lot of damage.

This is not an alternative to the overland track, it is technically more challenging in at least this section. I have not been south of Black Bluff for years. Hope to do that bit soon. I think the idea of a warning at the beginning of the Leven Canyon section is a great idea.

Both of us are "average" walkers. During the walk we were discussing that it is a shame that there is not a grading scale of tracks, similar to what climbers have. If a track was graded then you can avoid the subjective description of that a track is easy or hard depending on experience. I understand that some sort of scale is available - has anybody seen this used?

Like most, I am unsure when to say a track is impassible. Maybe it is impassible for me when it is, and at the moment I can only find that out by trying it!!!

It is great that over the years many volunteers have worked on the tracks that we enjoy. I fear that if we look to Government to fund the maintenance of many of the tracks in the NW, we will be waiting a long time.

Here ends the miscellaneous ramblings.

Penguin
User avatar
Penguin
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 780
Joined: Sun 15 Jul, 2007 9:47 pm

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Nuts » Sat 28 May, 2011 6:11 pm

Hi Plaz, this'll sound defensive cause i'm back there also: I dont see any woulda's or shoulda's, just the question about why (and a sprinkle of good ol aussie humor)? I see the question was more or less answered, good enough for me, ive been in what sounds like a similar situation making desperate grabs at handholds more in hope and luck than perhaps sensible though at the end of the day only myself to blame. Thanks Snake for your post and patience.
User avatar
Nuts
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 8555
Joined: Sat 05 Apr, 2008 12:22 pm
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Liamy77 » Sun 29 May, 2011 5:56 am

no i am not currently in s&r although YES i have been in the past ...
obviously i would rather go for a live person than pick up a body with an unused plb - who wouldnt?!

but with limited resources available, i would also rather let 3 walk out for a day where possible and have the fuel/funds left for life-threatening situations. if this is what they judged themselves to honestly be in (for their experience level etc) then i have no issue at all - just wondered as like nik i didn't find it obvious in mr snakes post. :)
Taggunnah
GRAVITY... IS A HARSH MISTRESS!
knowledge's lighter than gadgets..but gadgets can be fun!
User avatar
Liamy77
Auctorita modica
Auctorita modica
 
Posts: 1552
Joined: Tue 20 Apr, 2010 4:36 pm
Location: Southern Channel, Tas.... but sometimes i leave n walk around elsewhere!
ASSOCIATED ORGANISATIONS: Woodbridge Organics
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby sthughes » Sun 29 May, 2011 5:08 pm

Yeah when Penguin and I did it back on the 30th April to 1st of May it was in pretty poor condition. Lots of trees down and what not. Personally I really enjoyed the more challenging conditions but I can see that if you were expecting an experience like the OT it could be a scare. There are a few places where you need to be very careful of your footing, and the rocks by the river are quite slippery and not at all nice and smooth to fall on. I've been meaning to do a little trip report with some pictures, but never got around to it. Here is a little example of the steep banks on which the track sidles around. I didn't really get a lot of pictures due to the more challenging conditions and it being damp on the first day and very wet on the second day.
Image
Image

As to whether or not the PLB activation was warranted; obviously in my opinion it was not that dangerous or I would have turned back myself. However I don't believe in having a go at anyone for making such a decision. While the party Snake was in obviously views risk/safety more conservatively than I, there are plenty who are much more "dare devil" than Penguin and I and who would no doubt disagree with our decision to activate a PLB if such a situation were to arise in the future. Conversely it could be argued Penguin and I were taking unnecessary risks by continuing and hence risking the need for a much more resource intensive corpse search when we did come to grief. When and where 'too risky to continue' is, is not for me to say, only the person in the particular situation and knowing the abilities of the particular party can make that decision in my opinion. So while I don't agree with Snake's assessment, I would like to say good on you for doing what you felt best at the time, for making the tough decision and especially for coming on the forum (to what can be a pretty hostile audience on such matters) and giving us the real story.
"Don't do today what you can put off 'till tomorrow." (Work that is!)
User avatar
sthughes
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 2414
Joined: Wed 05 Mar, 2008 12:53 pm
Location: Ulverstone
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Penguin » Sun 29 May, 2011 5:40 pm

Well said S.

We did have fun. I did have a bit of a fall.

I still think that we need a grading scale - so as to give walkers some real advice as to track conditions.

Better to be out there than watching another travel show on TV

Penguin.

PS S, how long did we take?
User avatar
Penguin
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
Phyllocladus aspleniifolius
 
Posts: 780
Joined: Sun 15 Jul, 2007 9:47 pm

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby ILUVSWTAS » Sun 29 May, 2011 5:46 pm

Yeh I agree, well said Hughsie
Nothing to see here.
User avatar
ILUVSWTAS
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 11025
Joined: Sun 28 Dec, 2008 9:53 am
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Nuts » Sun 29 May, 2011 6:27 pm

Your grading scale sounds good Penguin....though (imo) its not being done as it was never going to be as simple as that used for climbing, conditions and weather change and it can be one small area like this that can make the difference (so it would need to grade track sections individually) not so committing as a difficult pitch that gives a climb its grading?

I cant help thinking (whilst agreeing with you sth) in applying this as an 'individual' thing, as to why a different response is warranted for this compared to that infamous incident down south? Was it because in that case he asked here first and was given advice....?

To me, those involved just need to be thick skinned and expect questions to be asked (especially on a forum like this). To me it not about choppers flying everywhere or SES being kept busy (even though its perhaps best that they werent), its whatever it takes to stop people getting into these situations in the first place. If that means that the general attitude is to question (and even yes (for those that have to) make assumptions) then so be it. I think (in this case) Snake has been treated very lightly and by people who have more to offer than the general public and usual media response. Probably helped by having made his post. A few hurt feelings are a small price to pay, maybe the onus Should be left with those involved to deal with this whatever discussion comes from their incident. It should only Help that they know we dont understand their particular situation or experience or planning.
User avatar
Nuts
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 8555
Joined: Sat 05 Apr, 2008 12:22 pm
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby Nuts » Sun 29 May, 2011 7:08 pm

edited
User avatar
Nuts
Lagarostrobos franklinii
Lagarostrobos franklinii
 
Posts: 8555
Joined: Sat 05 Apr, 2008 12:22 pm
Region: Tasmania

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby tas-man » Sun 29 May, 2011 11:46 pm

sthughes wrote:<Snip> There are a few places where you need to be very careful of your footing <snip>
When and where 'too risky to continue' is, is not for me to say, only the person in the particular situation and knowing the abilities of the particular party can make that decision in my opinion. <snip>

I agree with you and nuts that there are sections of the Leven River P/C trail that a combination of track formation (or lack of), track condition and weather conditions during the walk can make any difficulty rating fraught with just to many variables to commit to paper or signage. The section of track that sthughes captured in his first photo was no doubt taken for the same reason I took mine (in the dry!) . . . . I was very happy to have safely traversed it, and the adrenaline levels got a bit higher than any where else along the Leven River track. As I mentioned in my earlier post, doing this for the first time in heavy rain was an unnerving experience for me as well as my mate, who had a lot more rock climbing experience than me. Traversing a rain drenched loose earth slope held together by wet grass with only grass to hang onto to maintain balance with a full pack was a totally different experience to doing it three years later in the dry. My photo of the same section with approx traverse line is below.

A%20tricky%20bit%20of%20track%20above%20Leven%20river.JPG
"The world reveals itself to those who travel on foot."
Werner Herzog
User avatar
tas-man
Athrotaxis selaginoides
Athrotaxis selaginoides
 
Posts: 1477
Joined: Mon 03 Sep, 2007 8:55 pm
Location: Riverside
Region: Tasmania
Gender: Male

Re: Yet more Bushwalkers rescued

Postby ossie » Wed 01 Jun, 2011 3:41 pm

I don't know this track, I am not from Tasmania. How many days walk is this track? The significance of this is that they were on Day 4 when they decided to activate their PLB. So if instead of activating it, if they had decided to turn back and walk out the way they came, they still had maybe 3 - 4 days walking back to the start (depending on weather, fatigue etc.) If this then put them past their expected date of finishing, then whoever was the responsible person back home being their "SAR watch", ie the person who knows their plans and that they were overdue, may have notified the police and sparked a full scale search and rescue operation anyhow.

Much easier to respond to a PLB, and before they are injured or worse, than conduct a search for missing walkers. And much better that it is set off in the morning rather than late afternoon and getting towards last light.

That is my view, as a paramedic on a rescue helicopter in NSW.
ossie
Nothofagus gunnii
Nothofagus gunnii
 
Posts: 16
Joined: Mon 17 Jan, 2011 3:00 pm
Location: Lismore, NSW
Region: New South Wales
Gender: Male


Return to Tasmania

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 28 guests