Tue 29 Apr, 2014 7:25 am
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Tue 29 Apr, 2014 8:08 am
GPSGuided wrote:Market demand demonstrates that the Nepal price is still too low to keep polluting mountaineers away. Should go even higher!
Tue 29 Apr, 2014 8:15 am
wayno wrote:these comments might be better on another thread, some respect should be shown to the sherpas who have lost their lives working in the pay of everest mountain companies...
Tue 29 Apr, 2014 9:43 am
radson wrote: Why do you think Everest on Nepal is that unclean? With the garbage deposits and money paid for empty o2 bottles. Everest is nothing like those pics of the 90's. Compare it to other Himalayan mountains and Everest is pristine.
Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:30 am
GPSGuided wrote:wayno wrote:these comments might be better on another thread, some respect should be shown to the sherpas who have lost their lives working in the pay of everest mountain companies...
Perfectly legitimate comments. The foreign mountaineers should pay for the social and professional well beings of the sherpas they engage. That's respect. Just heard of an ABC radio segment yesterday that talked about how there's a lack of credit on the names of those who summits. It's always the name of foreign climbers while the sherpas are largely lumped behind and often anonymously. Time to recognise the central and critical role of sherpas and be treated accordingly.
Tue 29 Apr, 2014 2:58 pm
The foreign mountaineers should pay for the social and professional well beings of the sherpas they engage.
Tue 29 Apr, 2014 3:10 pm
radson wrote:The foreign mountaineers should pay for the social and professional well beings of the sherpas they engage.
Thats a very lofty standard.
Tue 29 Apr, 2014 4:50 pm
Tue 29 Apr, 2014 5:15 pm
wayno wrote:fees can vary massively between different guiding companies, the cheapest outfits are less likely to be spending more than the minimum on the sherpas... thats not to say the more expensive outfits are necessarily going to spend any more on sherpas and their welfare, but it increases the chances they will be spending more on them.
one guide melissa arnot had already setup an insurance fund to help cover sherpas after she lost one of her sherpas in an accident http://www.thejuniperfund.org/
Tue 29 Apr, 2014 5:19 pm
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As climbers and as readers of mountain literature, we're also familiar with attempts to communicate the realities behind the Everest Myth. We've seen decades of accounts about the crowds of clients on the normal routes and about the extensive reliance on the ropes fixed, the camps placed, the oxygen bottles carried and the loads hauled by local workers. Some of us have argued in print and online that this form of "totally supported" ascent is not "climbing," that genuine mountaineering involves more direct contact with the features of the mountain, and that the "spirit of alpinism" is about respect for the natural world, not its dominion. In 2008 the French alpinist Patrick Wagnon summed up this view in an impassioned editorial for Montagnes Magazine:
"I'm not seeking, here, to advocate an elitist discourse...but rather a return to humility, in which it's up to the climber to adapt himself to choosing an objective within his abilities, and not to the mountain to be rendered more accessible."
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