Mon 13 Apr, 2020 8:30 am
ILUVSWTAS wrote:No that is currently where we are at.
In the U.K they have currently banned outdoor exercise in some areas. New Zealand on stage 4 lockdown. We're probably going to end up with the same restrictions before long so get used to it.
For what it's worth too, I dont totally agree with the measures taken but i totally understand why we are doing it and for now I will do my bit. If in 6 months time though i'm still being told I cant go outside or drive my car well I suspect i'll feel differently about it.
Just remember though people please while we cannot go walking, fishing, play golf or paddle board there are currently thousands and thousands of people worldwide who cant visit loved ones, aren't going out for treatment or are mourning the loss of loved ones. For me all this complaining about not being able to go for a walk seems a bit petty and selfish with whats going on in the world and most likely whats about to go on in our country in the next month.
4months ago we'd never heard of this virus (except the bat people) and now look at where we are.
Mon 13 Apr, 2020 8:32 am
paidal_chalne_vala wrote:I don't play golf but tell me how golf has been proven to increase the cross infection rate in a pandemic!. It is now banned in VIC.A dude on a stand up paddle board was sent home by the water police recently while having some recreation at the sea near Brighton Beach. You cannot make this stuff up.
Aardvark wrote:And to think it may not have happened if people had just a bit for respect for animals.
And despite all this it WILL happen yet again, sometime in the future.
Mon 13 Apr, 2020 8:51 am
Mon 13 Apr, 2020 9:24 am
Xplora wrote:Seriously? You want to turn this into a vegan debate.
Mon 13 Apr, 2020 10:05 am
ILUVSWTAS wrote:No error Lamont.
In parts of the UK outdoor exercising has been banned. Not here in Australia. Yet.
Mon 13 Apr, 2020 12:29 pm
Baeng72 wrote:Xplora wrote:Seriously? You want to turn this into a vegan debate.
You might be drawing a very long bow with that thought.
I think it's something along the lines of these articles, that we're causing animals that wouldn't interact into smaller spaces, through habitat destruction, which is allowing virus to cross species, then we're using those animals for bushmeat or illegal animal trade in markets, introducing novel virus into populations that aren't immune.
But a number of researchers today think that it is actually humanity’s destruction of biodiversity that creates the conditions for new viruses and diseases like COVID-19, the viral disease that emerged in China in December 2019, to arise
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... to-emerge/
https://theconversation.com/study-shows ... ans-135687
Mon 13 Apr, 2020 1:18 pm
Xplora wrote:......... Transmission from human to human is known and can be stopped. Once stopped, the virus will die. I do take your point although the debate about stopping the virus spreading further is not one of how it started. That horse has bolted and would be a question for when this is all over.
Mon 13 Apr, 2020 2:04 pm
Xplora wrote:
The actual transmission vector from Bat to human is not yet known. So far it is only speculation or in scientific terms, theory, fanned by media. Transmission from human to human is known and can be stopped. Once stopped, the virus will die. I do take your point although the debate about stopping the virus spreading further is not one of how it started. That horse has bolted and would be a question for when this is all over.
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Tue 14 Apr, 2020 4:36 am
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 6:08 am
Aardvark wrote:The only people who are going to listen and act on what you tell them they CAN'T do are the ones who are already converted.
Telling people over and over what they CAN'T do will not change the minds of those who don't want to take heed.
So the thread labelled as it is, is only destined to live a short life.
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 7:08 am
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 7:28 am
Xplora wrote: Apologies for any offence with my earlier comment.
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 7:35 am
Neo wrote:Ape, monkey, close enough to me.
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 1:15 pm
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 1:47 pm
north-north-west wrote:Apes are not monkeys. Monkeys are a different bunch of animals. Both are primates.
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 2:55 pm
Xplora wrote: Apologies for any offence with my earlier comment.
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 3:47 pm
Baeng72 wrote:north-north-west wrote:Apes are not monkeys. Monkeys are a different bunch of animals. Both are primates.
Apes are part of the Catarhinne Clade, along with Old-world Monkeys.
The Catarrhini or catarrhine monkeys or Old World anthropoids are the sister group to the New World monkeys,
...The apes – in both traditional and phylogenic nomenclature – are exclusively catarrhine species.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catarrhini
Apes (Hominoidea) are a branch of Old World tailless simians native to Africa and Southeast Asia. They are the sister group of the Old World monkeys, together forming the catarrhine clade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 4:05 pm
north-north-west wrote:Baeng72 wrote:north-north-west wrote:Apes are not monkeys. Monkeys are a different bunch of animals. Both are primates.
Apes are part of the Catarhinne Clade, along with Old-world Monkeys.
The Catarrhini or catarrhine monkeys or Old World anthropoids are the sister group to the New World monkeys,
...The apes – in both traditional and phylogenic nomenclature – are exclusively catarrhine species.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catarrhini
Apes (Hominoidea) are a branch of Old World tailless simians native to Africa and Southeast Asia. They are the sister group of the Old World monkeys, together forming the catarrhine clade.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape
None of which equates to apes being monkeys.
Tue 14 Apr, 2020 5:42 pm
Aardvark wrote:Xplora wrote: Apologies for any offence with my earlier comment.
It's alright. Thanks. I'm not offended. Not easily offended.
Forums such as this (where it is all written) allow easy misinterpretation of peoples ideas or meaning.
I often write things which some might find inflammatory but they generally are not meant to be.
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