Sun 29 Nov, 2015 6:07 pm
Xplora wrote:The realignment of this walk as proposed will take it up Diamantina spur to accommodation at High Knob.
Sun 29 Nov, 2015 7:07 pm
north-north-west wrote:"Rise and shine on a crisp High Plains morning..."
I look forward to them explaining how they can guarantee the weather will co-operate.
Mark F wrote:In reading that page I did not see anything that suggested the walks run by Evolve would climb Diamantina Spur now or in the future. I also haven't seen anything that says the icon proposal is a realignment of the recently upgraded Falls - Hotham Crossing but I have not read the proposal documents other than what is on this thread.
Mark F wrote:It's a pity NSW bagged all the high peaks.
Sun 29 Nov, 2015 7:22 pm
Lophophaps wrote:The climb to the summit of Kosciuszko is far less than Bungalow Spur, Staircase or T Spur.
Sun 29 Nov, 2015 8:54 pm
Not as many people climb Kosciuszko compared to Bogong.
Sun 29 Nov, 2015 9:28 pm
north-north-west wrote:Lophophaps wrote:The climb to the summit of Kosciuszko is far less than Bungalow Spur, Staircase or T Spur.
Not if you go up via Hannels Spur.
Mark F wrote:Not as many people climb Kosciuszko compared to Bogong.
"Easter is the peak period for visiting Mt Kosciuszko with reported visitor numbers exceeding 2,500 people per day on both Easter Saturday and Easter Sunday" (Johnston & Growcock, 2005).
Only if nobody visits for the rest of the year.
I am sure you would be delighted if Bogong achieved this level of visitation.
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 7:06 am
Lophophaps wrote:north-north-west wrote:Lophophaps wrote:The climb to the summit of Kosciuszko is far less than Bungalow Spur, Staircase or T Spur.
Not if you go up via Hannels Spur.
My reference was to the climb up Koscy from the top of the chairlift, the easy way.
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 8:13 am
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 12:42 pm
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Mon 30 Nov, 2015 5:13 pm
Lophophaps wrote:The Parks Victoria proposed Falls to Hotham walk goes down past Westons and Blairs, with a new track hitting Diamantina Spur at about 1330 metre, about 340 metres up and 1 kilometre from the start of the current Diamantina climb. Confusingly, the Falls-Hotham proposal has Diamantina Horse Yards at about 1100 metres a little south of Diamantina Spur where the new alignment hits DS. So the Evolve walk could not camp there: it's out of their way, the track does not exist, and the Diamantina Horse Yards as proposed do not exist.
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 7:10 pm
andrewp wrote:On VicMaps the alignment of the Diamantina Spur is incorrectly marked. It is correctly marked on OSM. See below. The red dotted line is the correct alignment. The magenta solid line is how it is marked on VicMaps. Diamantina Horse Yards do exist and are roughly where shown on the parks proposal map.
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 7:29 pm
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 8:06 pm
"The Falls to Hotham Crossing will provide demonstrable economic benefits to the local community, the region and the State. It will support a wide range of investment opportunities for tourism, complementary services and infrastructure that provide an holistic and integrated walking experience."
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 9:03 pm
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 9:22 pm
"snip . . ."An holistic and integrated walking experience" - well isn't every walk you do holistic. It starts at the start and concludes when you get back - and integrated with what?
Mon 30 Nov, 2015 9:34 pm
sim1oz wrote:@ Lophophaps. Those price estimates are starting to make the Three Capes Trail look cheap
It's only going to be financially feasible if government and the private sector put up some pretty big bucks, but the private investors will want a ROI, so....
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 8:20 am
Mark F wrote:As a person who was involved in the establishment of the Cradle Huts walk I have mixed feelings about the proposal but understand the pro and anti arguments pretty well.
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 9:08 am
JulianS wrote:I've often wondered what the overall sentiment about Cradle Huts was amongst the bushwalking community when it was initially proposed. Are there parallels with what's been said on this topic?
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 3:30 pm
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 3:38 pm
paidal_chalne_vala wrote:When the revolution comes it will not be televised...
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 5:30 pm
Lophophaps wrote:
The commercial groups seem to be intending to use Diamantina Horseyards as a vehicular-based camp. If so, it may be that they expect vehicular access to Tawonga Huts. The road from Pretty Valley is okay, but I'm not comfortable with vehicles for this reason. I understand that the Pretty Valley barrier is to stop all non-management vehicles. Is this correct? I wonder if there's to be resupply by helicopter. Allowing commercial vehicles and aircraft is a terrible precedent.
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 5:33 pm
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 6:15 pm
Tue 01 Dec, 2015 6:49 pm
Uncle Rumple wrote:Here is a suggestion:
Why doesn't one of you more erudite posters write an opinion piece on this topic and send it to Wild Magazine for the Opinion Page on their website - see http://wild.com.au/people/opinion/
Editor Campbell Phillips (wild@primecreative.com.au) is always looking for comments from people who have something to say and this issue fits right in.
All you are doing here is preaching to the converted. Make some real waves!
Wed 02 Dec, 2015 5:22 am
Wed 02 Dec, 2015 8:54 pm
Wed 02 Dec, 2015 9:12 pm
Wed 02 Dec, 2015 9:22 pm
north-north-west wrote:Xplora wrote:The realignment of this walk as proposed will take it up Diamantina spur to accommodation at High Knob.
And this is another really dumb thing about it. I've snow camped up on High Knob. It's a beautiful, isolated spot with some magnificent views - but it isn't a practical place for a hut and all the necessary associated infrastructure. It's too exposed to be a practical tourist campsite or hut site.
Thu 03 Dec, 2015 8:27 am
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