The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Sat 25 Feb, 2017 8:02 pm
by jvangemert
Bushwalkers, why don't we have a peak bagging list for Victoria.
So I have cobbled this one together in a spreadsheet using Wiki and other bush/ski forums posts plus a quick check of named high points on the map.
After a couple of glasses of red I awarded points.
I sat back and after sending to a couple of mates revised it quite a bit. The PDF version is here on this page. The excel spreadsheet you can alter by area, by height, by name etc. I made a separate list for the Grampians with a cut off of 500m. Why? Because they are the most wonderful set of craggy peaks in Victoria and I visited all of them and they are in the spirit of the Ables and the Munros (if perhaps a little shorter).
This will undoubtedly fire up campfire discussions which is fine and everyone will have a take on it. The main thing is we have a starting point.
The must have rules are:
1. A view e.g. cannot be a treed hill a' la' Mt Cowley in the Otways or be so compromised by road and transmission towers a' la' Mt William in the Grampians.
2. 150m vertical separation from surroundings as a min.
3. A min height. I made it around 1000m for Victoria. I have made a separate list for the Grampians with a cut off at 500m.
4. Points are awarded for the prominence, the effort to get there and the notoriety. This is based on the Ables for which only one peak gets a perfect 10. Federation probably because the climb can kill you. 6 is the highest I've awarded and our mountains are nowhere near as hard to get and climb as those in Tassie.
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Mon 27 Feb, 2017 7:56 pm
by jvangemert
Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
<50 Points Couch Potato
50 to 100 Points Apprentice Peak-Bagger
100 to 150 Points Certified Peak-Bagger
150+ Points Gold Standard Peak-Bagger
Area Name Altitude Points
Bogong-Hotham Bogong West Peak 1,956 6
Bogong-Hotham Feathertop 1,922 6
Bogong-Hotham Bogong 1,986 5
Bogong-Hotham Little Bogong 1,660 5
Buller-Howitt Buggery 1,583 5
Buller-Howitt Buller 1,805 5
Grampians Dalton Peaks 1,005 5
Bogong-Hotham Little Feathertop 1,775 4
Buller-Howitt Bluff 1,725 4
Buller-Howitt Dispair 1,460 4
Buller-Howitt McDonald 1,620 4
Buller-Howitt The Governor 1,428 4
Cobberas Cobberas 1 1,810 4
Cobberas Cobberas 2 1,696 4
Grampians Red Man Bluff 1,017 4
Moroka-Tarli Karng Crinoline/Mt Ligar1,165 4
Bogong-Hotham Arthur 1,682 3
Bogong-Hotham Fainter North 1,845 3
Bogong-Hotham Fainter South 1,883 3
Bogong-Hotham Grey Hills Knob 1,700 3
Bogong-Hotham Jaithmanthangs 1,852 3
Buller-Howitt Cobbler 1,628 3
Buller-Howitt Darling 1,194 3
Buller-Howitt Eagle Peaks 1,446 4
Buller-Howitt Howitt 1,742 3
Buller-Howitt King Billy 1 1,716 3
Buller-Howitt Koonika 1,594 3
Buller-Howitt The Nobs 1,495 3
Buller-Howitt The Viking 1,519 3
Cobberas Wombargo 1,655 3
Baw Baw Baw Baw 1,566 2
Baw Baw Erica 1,510 2
Baw Baw St Gwinear 1,509 2
Baw Baw St Phillack 1,556 2
Bogong-Hotham Blue Rag Range 1,718 2
Bogong-Hotham Cope 1,837 2
Bogong-Hotham Crowsnest 1,750 2
Bogong-Hotham Jim 1,818 2
Bogong-Hotham Murray 1,618 2
Bogong-Hotham Selwyn 1,411 2
Bogong-Hotham Spion Kopje 1,837 2
Bogong-Hotham Timmins Lookout 1,510 2
Bogong-Hotham Wills South 1,621 2
Buller-Howitt Clear 1,695 2
Buller-Howitt Magdala 1,725 2
Buller-Howitt Square Top 1,598 2
Buller-Howitt Sunday 1,407 2
Buller-Howitt The Razor 1,540 2
Buller-Howitt Timbertop 1,272 2
Cobberas Rams Horn 1,626 2
Grampians Durd Durd 1,167 2
Grampians Rosea 1,006 2
Moroka-Tarli Karng Darling 1,515 2
Moroka-Tarli Karng Kent 1,561 2
Moroka-Tarli Karng Reynard 1,705 2
Moroka-Tarli Karng Snowy Bluff 1,385 2
Moroka-Tarli Karng Tamboritha 1,509 2
Moroka-Tarli Karng The Sentinels 1,545 2
Moroka-Tarli Karng Wellington 1,634 2
Mt Buffalo Dunn 1,485 2
Mt Buffalo McLeod 1,529 2
Mt Buffalo The Horn 1,723 2
Donna Buang 1,223 2
Johnnies Top 1,570 2
Torbreck 1,512 2
Bogong-Hotham Blowhard 1,720 1
Bogong-Hotham Dargo Lookout 1,565 1
Bogong-Hotham Freezeout 1,634 1
Bogong-Hotham Higgenbottom 1,814 1
Bogong-Hotham High Knob 1,801 1
Bogong-Hotham Hotham 1,862 1
Bogong-Hotham Little Blowhard 1,615 1
Bogong-Hotham Little Higgenbottom 1,762 1
Bogong-Hotham Loch 1,887 1
Bogong-Hotham McKay 1,849 1
Bogong-Hotham Nelse 1,882 1
Bogong-Hotham Nelse North 1,884 1
Bogong-Hotham Rene Lookout 1,668 1
Bogong-Hotham Smythe 1,531 1
Bogong-Hotham St Bernard 1,532 1
Bogong-Hotham Tabletop 1,593 1
Bogong-Hotham The Twins 1,702 1
Bogong-Hotham Timms Lookout 1,825 1
Bogong-Hotham Wills 1,755 1
Buller-Howitt Eadley Stoney 1,662 1
Buller-Howitt McKinty 1,340 1
Buller-Howitt Skene 1,572 1
Buller-Howitt Speculation 1,666 1
Buller-Howitt Stirling 1,749 1
Moroka-Tarli Karng Sarah 1,552 1
Available Points 211
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Mon 27 Feb, 2017 8:14 pm
by jvangemert
The formatting is gone and the website doesn't like cells of any kind.
Flinders_The Grampians Peak Bagging List
<10 Points Couch Potato
10 to 30 Points Apprentice Peak-Bagger
30 to 50 Points Certified Peak-Bagger
75+ Points Gold Standard Peak-Bagger
Name Range Altitude Points
Lubra (Warrina-burb) Serra 917 6
Twin Serra 983 5
Birges Nose (Galbidi) Serra 940 5
Lang (Jaranula) Serra 917 5
Triplet Serra 898 5
Frederick Serra 837 5
Nelson (Marum Marum) Serra 819 5
The Dome Mt William 680 5
Middleton (Warrirburra) Serra 958 4
Albert Point Mt Difficult 669 4
Barney Castle Mt William 570 4
The Grand Old Man Mt William 540 4
Fortress Victoria 875 3
Signal Peak Serra 780 3
Abrupt Serra 827 2
Difficult Mt Difficult 806 2
Stony Peak 804 2
Cathedral Rock Mt William 793 2
Tower Hill 726 2
Castle Rock Serra 689 2
As ses Ears (Djibalara) 688 2
Briggs Bluff Mt Difficult 619 2
Sturgeon Serra 548 2
Stapylton (Gunigaig) Mt Difficult 518 2
Thackery Victoria 978 1
McIver (Ngumadj) Wonderland 814 1
Sundial Peak Wonderland 802 1
The Pinnacle Wonderland 715 1
Abrupt Peak Mt William 690 1
Boronia Peak Mt William 595 1
Burchell Serra 556 1
Points available 90
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Tue 28 Feb, 2017 6:32 am
by neilmny
Nice work jvangemert
Do you want to add the Cathedral Range?
Neds Peak 725 - has a view if you look really hard.
North Jawbone 795
South Jawbone 804
Sugarloaf Peak 912
Altitudes taken from OSM.
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Tue 28 Feb, 2017 12:53 pm
by scroggin
Do you only count the peak once?
If so I'm only on a paltry 76 - just an apprentice
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Tue 28 Feb, 2017 8:45 pm
by madmacca
I don't intend to nitpick with individual ratings, but there is a broader issue that I will call "local prominence" that perhaps should be added to the rules.
I'll take one example from the top of your list. Mt Bogong clearly deserves its rating as a 6. But once you have got to the summit of Bogong, West Peak can be bagged with little extra effort, and is probably only worth a 4. Mt Feathertop and Little Mount Feathertop would be similar. Notoriety probably also justifies a downgrade in ratings for subsidiary summits. Generally maximum ratings should only be awarded to the higher of adjacent peaks, although there could be grounds for award a lower peak a higher rating if it is more dramatic, harder to climb, etc.
Thoughts?
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Wed 01 Mar, 2017 9:42 pm
by jvangemert
The Cathedral Range does have some great crags but comes under the 1000m. Then so does a lot of Grampians peaks. I hived off the Grampians as a separate list as it is a wonderful and deserving walking area.
West Peak, 6 points, looks more like a peak, is more dramatic both from the valley view and while on the Bogong massif and has better views IMO. The much loved Mt Bogong, 5 points, needs to have an enormous cairn to delineate its location.
The formatting of this list is a problem when copied here but it clearer on my excel which you can search/tally etc.
If you PM me with an email address I can send it too you.
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Sat 04 Mar, 2017 6:38 am
by north-north-west
This is not so much a Vic Peak-Baggers list, but more like Victorian Abels only not quite so high. There are plenty of peaks on the Tassie Peak-Baggers List below 1000m, or without views, or containing fire towers/communication towers/helipads etc.
Nice list, but. 192 points - Must get back and bump that up to 200.
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Thu 09 Mar, 2017 6:58 pm
by paidal_chalne_vala
Some routes up Mt . Bogong and Mt. FT are tougher than others. Ascending Mt.Bogong by the T Spur versus the Staircase or the Eskdale spurs should have different ratings. The same can be said about The Dimantina spur versus the Bungalow spur or the Bon Accord spur etc.
Re: The Flinders_The Victorian Peak Bagging List
Posted: Tue 14 Mar, 2017 11:51 am
by Explorer_Sam
If this was less like an Abels list and more like a basic 'peak-bagging' list, I would recommend some additions.
Mount Buangor 965m
Langi Ghiran 924m
Ben Nevis 863m
They are not far from the Grampians, could they potentially be added to that list?