But everytime you stick it to the forecast and still go, it turns out just as predicted...north-north-west wrote:There is nothing more infuriating and frustrating than cancelling a projected trip because of a highly unfavourable forecast when said forecast turns out to be about as reliable as the average political promise.
Even worse when they turn a shrub into an impailer stick. Had one been a few cm longer I'd have been pretty badly heart broken...north-north-west wrote:People who break vegetation on an overgrowing track, but leave it dangling.
If you're going to break it to make passage easier, break it right off and chuck it away. Leaving it attached creates a greater problem than the living vegetation.
Walk_fat boy_walk wrote:NZ sand flies can gagf
johnw wrote:Walk_fat boy_walk wrote:NZ sand flies can gagf
Unfortunately that's why they keep multiplying
Petew wrote:
Whatever the critters are that crash around the bush at 3 in the morning when I'm out solo. It's not the noise, it's the associated psychodrama in my head that's annoying
ThehannaTree wrote:... food allergies that prevent her from helping out with the Tim Tams ...
Heremeahappy1 wrote:"...seem to want to park right on top of each other, and you. They travel thousands of miles from the city to enjoy open areas and then park their cruisers, caravans and ivecos together like sardines..."
Recreating suburbia one campsite at a time. Do we subconsciously cling to others as humans? Walking out along 90 mile beach away from any potential distractions for a quiet fish, only to find a few hours later a bloke walking a good half km, up the sand, to set up within shouting distance of me. F#$k off and leave me alone! Over the years Ive come to realise a few truths
1. Many ppl are actually scared of the dark and the bush. They will usually compensate with loud music, lights, alcohol and/or large fires.
2. Many ppl can not stand their own company or don't trust themselves and will travel in large groups, set camp annoyingly close to others, talk incessantly, general PITA
3. Many ppl believe and will act like they are the first person in the bush- the only person in the bush- the only user of the bush. This fuels intolerant behaviours such as blue tooth speakers, poor toileting, out of sight/mind rubbish disposal, drones, not exercising appropriate hut/water tank use, firewood collection and irresponsible vehicle use ie sense of entitlement.
Its not all doom & gloom, it brought a smile to my face today to see a bloke heading off for a fish, guys firewood collection, a trailer full of dirt bikes and some deer hunters collecting their hounds all within 20km as I drove back from my own offtrack exploration and 4wding. Proof user groups can coexist.
Exercising tolerance, etiquette, compassion and minimum impact will enable future use of our precious outdoors.
Warin wrote:The 'plan' ... and sticking too it...
Ok .. I have a plan. But sticking too it ... not a good idea. Spending an hour watching an eagle soar .. not on the 'plan' ... bugger the 'plan'.
At a tourist site ... group arrives and someone says "Ok, we have 5 minutes here' ... they have spent some days getting here .. for 5 minutes?
Hermione wrote:Ultralight fanatics who take take luggage scales so they can weigh people's packs. Took me a while to figure out why this incensed me so much, since for myself I don't care as I'm fairly comfortable with my pack and while lightweight I doubt I will ever be ultralight (not that anyone asked to weigh my pack). What bothered me was seeing others with heavier packs made to feel inadequate because of their gear choices, which may be what they can afford given that there were a number of families with kids, with Dad carrying the majority of gear, or just infrequent bushwalkers who aren't don't want to invest hundreds of dollars in new gear. I'm pretty sure these people knew their packs were heavy given they'd just lugged them uphill for 20km or so. If the aim really was to educate rather than belittle people I think there might be a better way to go about it. Also as an ultralighter why carry scales??? Surely you know the weight of all your own gear!
north-north-west wrote:WHAT?!?!???![]()
They just go and weigh people's gear? Way to earn yourself some big trouble, sunshine. You don't touch other people's gear unless specifically invited to do so and you really don't do it to judge them. And asking first when you're being all judgey like that does not qualify as an invitation.
Camminata wrote:The logistics - driving to and from your hike, can't think of anything that annoys me while out there apart from going for a wee when comfy in sleep bag.
north-north-west wrote:Hermione wrote:Ultralight fanatics who take take luggage scales so they can weigh people's packs. Took me a while to figure out why this incensed me so much, since for myself I don't care as I'm fairly comfortable with my pack and while lightweight I doubt I will ever be ultralight (not that anyone asked to weigh my pack). What bothered me was seeing others with heavier packs made to feel inadequate because of their gear choices, which may be what they can afford given that there were a number of families with kids, with Dad carrying the majority of gear, or just infrequent bushwalkers who aren't don't want to invest hundreds of dollars in new gear. I'm pretty sure these people knew their packs were heavy given they'd just lugged them uphill for 20km or so. If the aim really was to educate rather than belittle people I think there might be a better way to go about it. Also as an ultralighter why carry scales??? Surely you know the weight of all your own gear!
WHAT?!?!???![]()
They just go and weigh people's gear? Way to earn yourself some big trouble, sunshine. You don't touch other people's gear unless specifically invited to do so and you really don't do it to judge them. And asking first when you're being all judgey like that does not qualify as an invitation.
peregrinator wrote:Camminata wrote:The logistics - driving to and from your hike, can't think of anything that annoys me while out there apart from going for a wee when comfy in sleep bag.
Driving to, I generally enjoy. Driving from, I despise. Returning from the beauties of the bush through an hour or so of outer to middle to inner suburbia shows just how unsustainable and stressful a large city is. I now prefer where possible to travel out and back on public transport (train and bus).
Camminata wrote:peregrinator wrote:Camminata wrote:The logistics - driving to and from your hike, can't think of anything that annoys me while out there apart from going for a wee when comfy in sleep bag.
Driving to, I generally enjoy. Driving from, I despise. Returning from the beauties of the bush through an hour or so of outer to middle to inner suburbia shows just how unsustainable and stressful a large city is. I now prefer where possible to travel out and back on public transport (train and bus).
A train would be great , better than driving!
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