A disaster waiting to happen?

[wayno]

google journalism... to get enough words to fill out the article....
problem is automation has led to fewer journalists having to do more work, less time to spend on articles.. sources arent verified for stories that arent front page...
article in nz of a kayaker going across the tasman referred to him as "sailing" the tasman.... its strictly a paddling trip.... adjectives get used casually without real thought... as the journo rips through one article then on to the next they would proabably barely know what they have written.....
i was talkig to someone who's job is to review journalists work, he was an old hand and was despairing about the big drop in standards over the decades...

[icefest]

Personally I see little difference between public internet posts and shouting out for all to hear on the local soapbox. The best you can hope for is a link-back to your original post for readers to understand the context on their own. I do not think news publishers have hugely changed their standards over the past 100 years - have a read of archived Australian newspapers on google. A nice amount of smut and dodgy reporting can be found there too.

Emails and personal messages are different, but if public posts are quoted in the news that that's reasonable to me.

I personally try to keep at least a modicum of separation between this account and some more personal details but anyone with a couple of hours of time can link it to me. While true anonymity isn't impossible I do not see the need for it here.

[Turfa]

While I joined here after this happened, david you are correct. Journalism is now just copy/paste. I was pretty mad last year as one comment I made via facebook on a political candidates status wound up in a news article, name and everything, and completely out of context. Be careful what you say these days, the hacks who publish the news have less talent than a google bot

Yes, and it's not just copy & paste, it looks like they actively make stuff up either deliberately or through sheer ignorance. I had to laugh when I saw how the newspaper article converted the original term "trolley" into "shopping trolley"..........guess the journalist is not familiar with a kayak trolley.

[icefest]

@wayno,

I'm not sure if you've seen this, but it illustrates my point; like forebodings of apocalypse, lamenting the death of the written word has been going on for at least 200 years.



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'Unfortunately, the notion of marriage which prevails ... at the present time ... regards the institution as simply a convenient arrangement or formal contract ... This disregard of the sanctity of marriage and contempt for its restrictions is one of the most alarming tendencies of the present age.' --John Harvey Kellogg, Ladies' guide in health and disease (1883)

[perfectlydark]

Personally I see little difference between public internet posts and shouting out for all to hear on the local soapbox. The best you can hope for is a link-back to your original post for readers to understand the context on their own. I do not think news publishers have hugely changed their standards over the past 100 years - have a read of archived Australian newspapers on google. A nice amount of smut and dodgy reporting can be found there too.

Emails and personal messages are different, but if public posts are quoted in the news that that's reasonable to me.

I personally try to keep at least a modicum of separation between this account and some more personal details but anyone with a couple of hours of time can link it to me. While true anonymity isn't impossible I do not see the need for it here.

I dont disagree with you at all. Personally what irked me was the fact it was written as though I had been sought for comment, which of course first I knew was when I read the article myself. Just my opinion but I feel that if you are going to lift quotes from social media etc then I dont see why the need to publish a full name along with it, without consent

[Strider]

I feel that if you are going to lift quotes from social media etc then I dont see why the need to publish a full name along with it, without consent

How can someones full name be determined simply by viewing posts on a forum such as this one?

[davidmorr]

I feel that if you are going to lift quotes from social media etc then I dont see why the need to publish a full name along with it, without consent

How can someones full name be determined simply by viewing posts on a forum such as this one?

Earlier in this thread, someone posted links to sites that aggregate information from various sources. So if you have ever mentioned your name on a forum, it is likely to be listed on one of these sites.

[perfectlydark]

Yep or direct lift off social media, as was my case

[icefest]

Didn't you post it under your own name in the forum and on Facebook?

That's the reason I sign PM's and forum posts with -icefest.

Another useful trick is to have several usernames on differing forums that have no personal link to you. A username that is rare on forums but in common useage on the internet is great as it obfuscates the posts that are made by you. In my case several NH cities celebrate midwinter with ice sculptures and whatnot and call their celebrations "icefest".

[GPSGuided]

Perfectlydark, I am impressed by your score! For the number of social media crap out there, to get picked up is one to a million.

[perfectlydark]

Perfectlydark, I am impressed by your score! For the number of social media crap out there, to get picked up is one to a million.

Lol! Well if I didnt come out looking like an idiot id be happy (but lets be honest I dont think that happens with many of my posts no matter where )