self supporting mozzie net

[fishfruit]

Any ideas on making a self supporting mozzie net for sleeping? It doesn't need to be super light as my primary idea is to use them on camping stretchers in a base camp situation, but if it was lightweight, that would make them more multi functional. I had thought of using the wire found in pop up stuff, but I don't know where to get it from other than cutting up bought stuff.

[Moondog55]

Get a really cheap dome tent and don't use the fly and floor, put an eye in each corner of the cot

[neilmny]

You could make something out of this stuff http://www.tiergear.com.au/11/online-sh ... ee-um-mesh

[GPSGuided]

There's a bunch of them on Aliexpress if you search 'mosquito net'. Cheap too. If you have a tree branch above, there are even more options.

[RonK]

Use kite poles as supports perhaps.

[jakeyarwood]

Hmm, maybe you could opt for some noseeum mesh (as linked above) + side or top zipper + delrin rod (a.k.a flexible plastic, think it's also called acetal?) for support. Alternatively for the support, you could simply sew on a couple of webbing loops to the head and foot ends of the mesh, attach some guy line, clove hitch to a kite pole as mentioned by RonK and then stake it out? You could possibly secure the pole at an angle underneath the cot using a bit of cord and a cord lock too for additional stability? Perhaps you could use patches of velcro to attach the netting to the underside of the cots.

A couple commercial examples:

Here's the Outdoor Research bug bivy that uses a delrin rod for support.

And the A16 bug bivy.

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[jakeyarwood]

Also, some threads over at BPL on this subject:
https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/64863/
https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/84620/
https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/84451/

And another commercial option:
http://www.bearpawwd.com/net_tents/bug_bivy.php

[philm]

I purchased the Oz Trail Mossie Dome from Snoweys for $99 on special
We used it on the Jatbula trail no need for a tent and it performed well

[fishfruit]

Thanks all,
Will try and track down some delrin rod if it is not excessively pricey.
I have got some noseeum mesh already

[jakeyarwood]

Awesome! Be sure to post back with some details and images of the finished product

[Moondog55]

Before you rush out and buy Delrin rod look for some LW fibreglass; if you have a council recycle centre close by a couple of kids fishing rods make excellent canopy supports

or these

http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/prod ... mendations

http://www.bcf.com.au/online-store/prod ... mendations

[jakeyarwood]

Good call Moondog! Those definitely look like more cost effective options.

[BarryK]

I recently purchased a cheap fully-enclosed bug net from aliexpress.com, only cost US$20 including postage.

Got from here:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/230G-Ultralight-Outdoor-Camping-Tent-Summer-1-Single-Person-Mesh-Tent-Body-Tnner-Tent-Vents/1947325_32646768966.html

In fact, it only arrived a couple of days ago, and I posted a mini-review to my blog:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00364



OK, it isn't self-supporting, but in shelters there is always some framework to tie up the cords.
It does NOT include the tarpaulin shown in above picture.

[Eljimberino]

If I were going to use the bug net for car camping with a stretcher inside I'd look at the Aliexpress offerings (buy the whole, use the inner) and try to find one with the right dimensions.

[Moondog55]

A FG hoop will work with that net tent; just need to sew on 2 loops on each side, head and foot 5 minutes work

[jakeyarwood]

Just came across this and figured it was worth adding here >
http://www.nemoequipment.com/product/?p ... 01P%20Bivy

[flywire]

See my 'Single Bug Bivy' post last year. These things can be heavy. Do you need to cover more than your head? Mozzies can sting you through the mesh if it touches your bare skin.

[jakeyarwood]

flywire's post is here FYI:
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=20184

[Eljimberino]

Here's a sea to summit net with some tent poles.

[jakeyarwood]

Here's a sea to summit net with some tent poles.

IMG_1591.jpg

Well that looks pretty palatial!

[BarryK]

I recently purchased a cheap fully-enclosed bug net from aliexpress.com, only cost US$20 including postage.

Got from here:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/230G-Ultralight-Outdoor-Camping-Tent-Summer-1-Single-Person-Mesh-Tent-Body-Tnner-Tent-Vents/1947325_32646768966.html

In fact, it only arrived a couple of days ago, and I posted a mini-review to my blog:

http://barryk.org/news/?viewDetailed=00364



OK, it isn't self-supporting, but in shelters there is always some framework to tie up the cords.
It does NOT include the tarpaulin shown in above picture.

An update: that Aliexpress link doesn't work anymore, but that style is still available on eBay and Aliexpress, just search for "mesh tent".

My blog software changed, the correct link is now:

https://bkhome.org/news/201606/bug-net- ... elers.html

In that blog post, I considered really minimalist shelter by using that mesh bivi and the Sea to Summit tarp poncho. Great if can use that poncho for two purposes. Photo experimenting with erecting the tarp poncho:



What prompted this update, is I stumbled across these 24.8cm lengths of carbon fibre tube, intended for drone construction:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33056914311.html

That length is very convenient, as I can lay the segments flat in my backpack or lumbar pack. I ordered 4 pieces of the 4x3 and the 6x4.

Maybe just two segments each end of the tarp poncho would do the trick, held together with a small length of aluminium tube.

But of course the devil is in the detail. As you climb into and out of the mesh bivi from the top, one side of the tarp would have to be lifted up.

Following my own advice, searching for "mesh tent" on Aliexpress, this is one hit:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32833751469.html



...ha ha, yes, minimalist!

...but I wonder, if I could replace that tub with some walls, make it a bit higher...

Note, there is discussion here about tent poles, with links to folding carbon fibre poles:

viewtopic.php?f=58&t=32613#p407517

Last edited by BarryK on Tue 27 Apr, 2021 7:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

[flywire]

Looks good if it's too hot to sleep with covering otherwise a high tensile wire framed net over the head works well, though can't seem to buy them anymore. If the mesh rests on bare skin it's not effective against mozzies.

Beats trying to wrap the tarp tightly around yourself to keep the mozzies off.