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A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

Forum rules

Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

Common words
Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Wed 12 Dec, 2018 7:07 pm

On the quality control issue and Zpacks, I believe this has been addressed by them (just my judgement of what I see and read) in the last months.
Firstly, remember all the "Bargain shelters" they were selling?
Listed as (words to the effect of) stitching not straight etc.. (still almost full price tho').
But they seemed to admit their stuff ups and shelters like my Duplex (but a concern for me with those big panels in the wind -but a palace inside) which has very straight stitching-cannot fault it (many others have said likewise lately) now seems to be the norm.
I think the second way (in their/his mind) has been to limit their offerings, trying to avoid all the stuff ups and complaints by making fewer shelters, but those they make, better.
Many dealings recorded on the RUL about their now stellar service!
Every email I sent them and there were many, were answered within 24 hours. That includes the ones after it had posted.
But after what I have read it is starting to feel like go time. Struts seem manageable and packing horizontally doesn't seem to be the concern I thought it may be.
It seems a wind worthy/handle up/magnetic/cleverly vented, sweet dream of a shelter.
Now I want a video-a full one or even two -one without removing struts the other removing them all and placing them back in to set up. Franco get in there so we can see what it looks like! On an Xlite, under a quilt/bag with some loft.
Franco what's the story with ordering and wait time after?
Did you also see my question on the mesh along the back wall?
Ta

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Wed 12 Dec, 2018 8:27 pm

Zapruda wrote:From experience those tie outs do way less than zpacks would have you believe.


Lol. I have the Plexamid and have tested and used it on the wild weather on the west of Tassie.

Have tested with the tie outs and not, and the tie outs are way better.

The tie outs makes some more space inside the tent, and keep the tent sides less bouncing over high wind.

Whatever The Zpacks says is not what I’m saying.

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Thu 13 Dec, 2018 6:27 am

Franco what's the story with ordering and wait time after?
You can send an E Mail to orders@tarptent.com to tell them you are interested so that you could take a spot in the queue. Theses shelters are made in small batches in Seattle so as soon as one batch is out if in the meantime there are backorders , another one starts.
The first batch should be ready mid January.

Did you also see my question on the mesh along the back wall?
No,what about the mesh along the back ?

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Thu 13 Dec, 2018 6:39 am

Lamont wrote:On the quality control issue and Zpacks, I believe this has been addressed by them


I hope so. I have had a lot of contact with them over the past 6 years for various issues. Nothing that ever stopped me buying from them mind you and I would still buy from them. I just feel like a lot of issues could have been mitigated before their products left their end. Frustrating considering the cost of shipping to and from Florida. I still love my duplex and still feel weird about selling my Altaplex... I guess they have a lot more competition on their hands now so they don't have much choice in improving their QC. A real sink or swim situation...

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Thu 13 Dec, 2018 6:57 am

photohiker wrote:
Zapruda wrote:From experience those tie outs do way less than zpacks would have you believe.


Lol. I have the Plexamid and have tested and used it on the wild weather on the west of Tassie.


I was referring to their ability or lack thereof to create space inside the shelter. As I mentioned the guy outs have worked for me in stopping the fabric from pushing too far in on windy nights. I used an Altaplex on the Main Range for years. I am very aware of their capabilities.

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Thu 13 Dec, 2018 4:09 pm

"I guess they have a lot more competition on their hands" -oh yeah and just wait until Bushwalkin' Dan (I'm claiming him for Aus. in the fraternal fellowship of the Commonwealth) gets his little DCF number out there!
That should be quite a sweet shelter!

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sat 15 Dec, 2018 10:58 am

Franco this question from Wednesday from the discounts adverts etc--
"Buon pomeriggio Franco.
I can't quite tell if there is a mesh panel along the back wall between the fly and the floor. I think there may be one running the length of that back wall (a la Duplex ends) -if so how wide is it please? Ciao."
Hmmmmm?

I think you are spending way too much time writing comedy and being entertaining-...no sitar indeed!

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sat 15 Dec, 2018 2:08 pm

Zapruda wrote:
photohiker wrote:
Zapruda wrote:From experience those tie outs do way less than zpacks would have you believe.


Lol. I have the Plexamid and have tested and used it on the wild weather on the west of Tassie.


I was referring to their ability or lack thereof to create space inside the shelter. As I mentioned the guy outs have worked for me in stopping the fabric from pushing too far in on windy nights. I used an Altaplex on the Main Range for years. I am very aware of their capabilities.


Maybe the inside space is difference between the Altaplex and the Plexamid. When I use the extra guys, there is significant more room inside the tent.

Also the mid rear is significantly angle wider than the Altaplex

Like this:

Image

The Altaplex rear line is almost straight:

Image

Does this look similar with your Altaplex?

Looking at the Altaplex on Zpacks, it doesn't seem to pull out much space:

Image

Looks like me that they have improved the tent design while designing the Plexamid...

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sat 15 Dec, 2018 4:59 pm

The argument about tie-outs is a mute point for me because I always look for a protected site to reduce condensation. It is a valid point however and seeing as DCF is custom made, TT 0.5 is different to Zpack 0.5. I dont care but others may regarding wind.

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Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sun 16 Dec, 2018 6:58 am

The floor on our tarp tents (single wall) is connected to the fly via a mesh panel, about 5" wide, the Aeon is no exception.
That started in 2002 .
BTW, the Aeon can be pitched high or low depending on the weather (or maybe your trekking poles..)
On the left it's at 125 cm, on the right at 110cm
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Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sun 16 Dec, 2018 7:15 am

Ah ha. Thanks.
That first pic shows it nicely.
Video coming out anytime soon?

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sun 16 Dec, 2018 7:54 am

There is a 20 sec clip on the product page.
The set up video will be added later on
https://www.tarptent.com/product/aeon-li/

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sun 16 Dec, 2018 8:02 am

Yes, I saw that one.
I linked it several days ago on here (Vimeo version) when it came out.
Looking for the full on extravaganza.
If I am thinking of buying something sight unseen, as such, that video is required.
Can't you prod them over there or something? :?: :P

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sun 16 Dec, 2018 5:16 pm

photohiker wrote:Looks like me that they have improved the tent design while designing the Plexamid...


Thanks for those pics Photohiker. It does appear that the Plexamid was designed for those ties out a bit better than the Altaplex was.
Cheers.

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Tue 18 Dec, 2018 7:49 am

A sketch of that low pitch :
aeon_compare_poles.jpg

the bathtub floor is about 5" high .

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Fri 21 Dec, 2018 9:42 am

A better photo of the high and low setting
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Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Fri 21 Dec, 2018 9:57 am

That would be marvellous if it was a double wall tent. With poles.

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Fri 21 Dec, 2018 10:31 am

Yes but it would not be 450g....
This is made primarily for the trough hikers that want a fully enclose shelter but to whom every gram counts.
I think that it is a better design than some of the other shelters in this category.
There is an H missing there , somewhere.
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Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Fri 21 Dec, 2018 2:22 pm

Ta Franco the pictures and the diagrams are really helpful. Nothing works like a picture.
Just wondering who are the trough hikers? Oink?
Buon natale. :D

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Fri 21 Dec, 2018 4:12 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thru-hiking

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Fri 21 Dec, 2018 4:21 pm

Franco wrote:This is made primarily for the trough hikers .

wee wee all the way home-sorry couldn't help it :lol:

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Sat 22 Dec, 2018 6:49 am

A sharper version for those that like details :
aeonLi_107cm.jpg

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Mon 07 Jan, 2019 7:07 am

https://www.thehikinglife.com/2019/01/t ... ent-aeons/

and he's actually on a mat!! Hey now!
-good on you Cam (albeit a short one but at 6' 1" you get a better idea of the space) wished he had of got into his quilt-but it's pretty obvious of the space it would take.
$429?

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Mon 07 Jan, 2019 7:16 am

Lamont wrote:https://www.thehikinglife.com/2019/01/time-outs-and-tarptent-aeons/

and he's actually on a mat!! Hey now!
-good on you Cam (albeit a short one but at 6' 1" you get a better idea of the space) wished he had of got into his quilt-but it's pretty obvious of the space it would take.
$429?


Just cam here to post this. Great minds eh?

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Wed 23 Jan, 2019 6:20 am

$535

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Wed 23 Jan, 2019 6:30 am

So around $750 Aud.

Thats pretty good. Cheaper than the Plexamid and comparable to the Notch Li depending on what inner you choose.

Once again, its great to see some competition and innovation with DCF shelters. I have no doubt this will sell incredibly well. I wouldn't be getting rid of my Notch Li for it but it would be hard to go past this if you are looking for a single wall, single pole DCF shelter.

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Wed 20 Feb, 2019 8:36 am

Cam(Swami) from The Hiking Life has just posted his review of the Aeon. He used it on the AAWT . Seems very happy with it.
https://www.thehikinglife.com/2019/02/g ... t-aeon-li/

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Wed 20 Feb, 2019 12:50 pm

and a sort of comparison with the Plexamid

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Wed 20 Feb, 2019 2:00 pm

Interestingly he says he thinks the plexamid better suits people over 6 feet tall, my impression was it was going to be the other way around.

Re: Tarptent Aeon Li

Wed 20 Feb, 2019 2:10 pm

As Swami pointed out in his review, you can set up the Aeon from about 108 cm to about 128 cm , so it depends....
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