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A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

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Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

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light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
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Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 2:14 pm

Hi Guys,
A quickie - I'm noticing a lot of Titanium gear out these day - spoons, sporks, butter knives, pots, etc... but I've yet to see a Titanium hunting knife/utility knife - there are plenty of titanium coated steel blades... but no full 100% titanium blades...

Is there a reason? does titanium not hold an edge like steel? am I not looking in the right spot?

Cheers,
Richard
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 2:34 pm

It doesn't have great edge holding ability.
There are one or two knives using an oxide coating on one edge which produces self sharpening edge-but it is micro serrated and better for slicing.
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 2:40 pm

http://www.kestrelknives.com/shop/sul-t ... tralighter

This is one of the available products.
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 3:20 pm

http://www.vargooutdoors.com/titanium-w ... Nw3nvmUd8E
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 3:31 pm

icefest wrote:http://www.kestrelknives.com/shop/sul-ti-mini-ultralighter

This is one of the available products.


Is it flexy?
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 4:02 pm

I'm still waiting for titanium gaiters, pants and scrub gloves. It would be wonderful to have clothing and gear that can survive Tassie scrub & rocks.
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 4:51 pm

Just wait a while, if we can weave stainless steel cloth titanium can only be a generation away, be great for shark proof wet suits and stab vests
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 7:35 pm

Metals are old hat. Carbon nano tubes, buckyballs and other man made technologies are the way forward!
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 8:01 pm

The future is not looking too bright for buckyballs http://gizmodo.com/how-buckyballs-fell-apart-1609183224

Best dust off the tin pannikin again!
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 8:17 pm

Moondog55 wrote:Just wait a while, if we can weave stainless steel cloth titanium can only be a generation away, be great for shark proof wet suits and stab vests

We already have woven dyneema and kevlar fabrics. I believe the 280gsm UHMWPE fabric would be some tough stuff. I expect it'd stand up to most conditions, it's not water proof but we can laminate to solve that.
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 8:27 pm

Empty wrote:The future is not looking too bright for buckyballs http://gizmodo.com/how-buckyballs-fell-apart-1609183224

Best dust off the tin pannikin again!

Wrong sort of buckyball

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckminsterfullerene
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 12 Feb, 2015 8:35 pm

I know mate. Just have a good natured dig. Know all about mr fuller.

What's your tip on pork bellies?
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Re: Titanium Gear

Sat 14 Feb, 2015 6:11 pm

There are numerous companies that are making Titanium knives, most diving knives are made from Titanium.
This company is the one I know that make TOP quality knives:
http://www.missionknives.com/index.php/why-titanium
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Re: Titanium Gear

Sat 14 Feb, 2015 7:09 pm

Empty wrote:I know mate. Just have a good natured dig. Know all about mr fuller.

What's your tip on pork bellies?

Pork bellies? Not really a fan to be honest. Much prefer beef.
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Re: Titanium Gear

Thu 23 Apr, 2015 9:53 pm

Love a good pork belly.
Rico

Re: Titanium Gear

Tue 07 Jul, 2015 8:41 pm

north-north-west wrote:I'm still waiting for titanium gaiters, pants and scrub gloves. It would be wonderful to have clothing and gear that can survive Tassie scrub & rocks.


The wait is over, Vargo recently started adding Titanium to his apparel line http://www.vargooutdoors.com/apparel.html :D unfortunately it is not a body armour for the Tasmanian bush...

Brian is investing a lot on this. Chemically it is not a new science, there are fabrics treated with silver powder but it seems titanium is superior and the production process is less heavy on the environment
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Re: Titanium Gear

Wed 08 Jul, 2015 7:38 pm

Rico wrote:
north-north-west wrote:I'm still waiting for titanium gaiters, pants and scrub gloves. It would be wonderful to have clothing and gear that can survive Tassie scrub & rocks.


The wait is over, Vargo recently started adding Titanium to his apparel line http://www.vargooutdoors.com/apparel.html :D unfortunately it is not a body armour for the Tasmanian bush...

Brian is investing a lot on this. Chemically it is not a new science, there are fabrics treated with silver powder but it seems titanium is superior and the production process is less heavy on the environment


Wow, i'll be interested to see if this is all gimmick or so truth.
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Re: Titanium Gear

Fri 17 Jul, 2015 12:16 pm

Aztec wrote:Is there a reason? does titanium not hold an edge like steel? am I not looking in the right spot?

Edge holding is limited, and then when it comes to sharpening you would be there FOREVER without a mechanical sharpening tool of some descript.

Dive knives exist in Ti because the need to hold that fine edge is not as strong as the need to have a strong blade that can be used for prying.
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