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A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

Forum rules

Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

Common words
Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Thu 30 Jun, 2016 7:48 am

Found this Japanese drink in Daiso called 'Ramune' (or Ramu) which comes in a super lightweight resuseable, resealable aluminium can which I thought would be brilliant for carrying fuel for UL hiking. The ~450ml empty can weighs in at only about 24gms and is the same diameter as a standard beer can but slightly taller with a screw top. The shape of the bottle is like a 50% reduced version of an MSR fuel bottle but significantly lighter. There's also a smaller 275ml resealable aluminium can ('Ribbon' Japanese drink) at only ~21gms.

Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Sat 23 Jul, 2016 3:47 pm

Pics or it never happened :P :D

Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Sat 23 Jul, 2016 4:03 pm

Image

Ok..........it's a quiet day doing budgets and spreadsheets, anything for a break ;)


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Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Sat 23 Jul, 2016 8:45 pm

RamuneFuelBottle.JPG


My painted Ramune aluminium fuel/metho bottle - painted about = 28gms. I'm going to paint the cap black.

Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Sun 24 Jul, 2016 8:53 am

We don't have Daiso in WA, they are only in NSW, QLD, VIC:

http://www.daisoglobal.com/store/list/?c_id=C0005

However, in Perth there are some other Japanese stores, for example:

Perth: https://www.facebook.com/MIYU-Life-Stor ... 623358553/
Subiaco: https://www.facebook.com/Nipponfoodsupplies/?ref=py_c

Don't know if they have those drink bottles though.

Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Sun 24 Jul, 2016 2:57 pm

I use a 300ml PET bottle (Coke Zero comes in these bottles, maybe other drink flavours as well). Weighs in at 22 grams. I just grabbed a couple of empties after my partner had drunk the contents. No chasing around Japanese shops required.

Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Sun 24 Jul, 2016 6:55 pm

Always the risk of another mistaking contents of those bottles through unlike what stew63 has done by painting the alloy red.


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Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Fri 29 Jul, 2016 2:42 am

Thanks for the pics Stew63 and Giddy_up.

Thanks for the heads-up BarryK

Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Fri 29 Jul, 2016 2:24 pm

When running fuel in these bottles, do you upgrade the gasket in the lid to some fuel stable rubber, or have you just left it as is?

Re: Alternative UltraLight fuel bottle/can

Fri 29 Jul, 2016 7:30 pm

The gasket in mine is some kind of plastic not rubber


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