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A place to chat about gear and the philosphy of ultralight. Ultralight bushwalking or backpacking focuses on carrying the lightest and simplest kit. There is still a good focus on safety and skill.

Forum rules

Ultralight Bushwalking/backpacking is about more than just gear lists. Ultralight walkers carefully consider gear based on the environment they are entering, the weather forecast, their own skill, other people in the group. Gear and systems are tested and tweaked.
If you are new to this area then welcome - Please remember that although the same ultralight philosophy can be used in all environments that the specific gear and skill required will vary greatly. It is very dangerous to assume that you can just copy someone else's gear list, but you are encouraged to ask questions, learn and start reducing the pack weight and enjoying the freedom that comes.

Common words
Base pack backpacking the mass of the backpack and the gear inside - not including consumables such as food, water and fuel
light backpacking base weight less than 9.1kg
ultralight backpacking base weight less than 4.5kg
super-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 2.3kg
extreme-ultralight backpacking base weight less than 1.4kg
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UL rain shells

Sun 23 Sep, 2018 1:24 am

Hi,just wondered what most folks are carrying. I am trying to get some knowledge on light options for intermittent use. Generally I don't bother in this area, the temps are mild and the wet is often refreshing. For rare trips though at elevation wanted an option to stay dry. Temps would rarely go below 10 degrees, wind factor minimal, rain potentially very heavy. Keeping cost reasonable would be nice as well, due to rarity of use and mould tends to eat things here eventually.. Thanks for any tips or theory.

Re: UL rain shells

Sun 23 Sep, 2018 8:18 am

Due to humidity a poncho might be best? UL would be a disposable one, that also solves the mould problem too.

Re: UL rain shells

Sun 23 Sep, 2018 4:45 pm

Warin wrote:Due to humidity a poncho might be best? UL would be a disposable one, that also solves the mould problem too.


frogg toggs and dri ducks are popular disposable ones with the americans

Re: UL rain shells

Mon 24 Sep, 2018 5:24 pm

Thanks wayno, I took a look. Shipping price is the only killer.

Re: UL rain shells

Mon 24 Sep, 2018 5:46 pm

https://it.aliexpress.com/item/3F-Ul-Ge ... c7c77d82fb
Combo poncho tarp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP0LFfI8IuY video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BQ6-FUqd6M
Senor melon bites El rey de 3FUL!

Re: UL rain shells

Tue 25 Sep, 2018 7:46 am

you can buy these rainshells in aus, some arent really waterproof though, check the waterproof rating is as close to 10,000 as you can get. some are really low, 2,000 and 5,000 is showerproof only
https://www.decathlon.com.au/11792-trekking

this would be one to consider, 230gm

https://www.decathlon.com.au/p/8492424_ ... #/18-200-l

Re: UL rain shells

Wed 26 Sep, 2018 9:34 am

I have a Marmot Essence (https://www.marmot.com/essence-jacket/889169838651.html)... only 180g and performs surprisingly well in wet weather (and breathes well). OR Helium II reputedly similar performance at the same weight. Neither would be much good for alpine/NZ/Tassie etc. but fantastic for UL trips in warmer climes.

Re: UL rain shells

Mon 01 Oct, 2018 8:49 pm

I got away with an OMM jacket from BPL, by never being seriously rained on that is. Website claims its waterproof but I'm not sure of it... Still have it as a light option or wind layer. It's 200g or so.
Have now got a long bomb-proof Mont jacket, I can spare the weight, still waiting to be properly rained on but will be glad wearing the Mont when it does!

Re: UL rain shells

Tue 02 Oct, 2018 3:46 pm

I use the Zpacks Vertice rain jacket. It comes in under 200gm. It is one of the most breathable jackets I know and can handle all day rain and you are still dry inside. I can take a bit of scrub (not too prickly).

Re: UL rain shells

Thu 11 Oct, 2018 10:55 pm

Thanks a lot for all the above suggestions, food for research.
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