Allchin09 wrote:Forest - The pack is the one that you describe by SeaToSummit. I have only recently bought it and have only tested in on a short day walk. Being the first frameless backpack that I have used, I had a bit of a shock when I found out how carefully you have to pack the bag so that it is comfortable. I will be also testing it on a full day walk this week with all the gear and weight, and that should give me a better understanding of how comfortable it is. I found that the straps dug into my shoulder, so I have taped some foam tubing around each of the straps to provide some cushioning, which seems to do the trick.
wayno wrote:Ultralighters are usually ultralighters because their priority is to walk as far and as fast as possible. they spend as little time camping as possible,,
they have no luxuries for the camp, if you're going to spend much time in camp it can get awful boring if you take the ultralight approach and you're not used to being without anything other than the absolute bare essentials for survival...
wayno wrote:maybe i read too much Andrew Skurka?
he calls himself an "ultimate hiker" but he is pretty much ultralight, his interpretation of ultralighters is to just take the bare essentials... and a lot of what i've read elsewhere has married up with that... some of my gear is ultralight but i'm in no way an ultralight hiker
Lindsay wrote:Even using a lightweight pack, tent, mattress and minimal clothing I don't see a lot of room to reduce this weight much further. Things like the PLB, GPS, notebook and pen, small plastic bag with credit card and cash, phone, glasses, kindle, camera etc. all add up.
Lindsay wrote:I've just finished packing for a 2 night trip in the Blue Mountains starting tomorrow and my all up weight is 12.9kg. I am carrying 3 litres of water and 1kg of food, which leaves my base weight at 8.9kg. Even using a lightweight pack, tent, mattress and minimal clothing I don't see a lot of room to reduce this weight much further. Things like the PLB, GPS, notebook and pen, small plastic bag with credit card and cash, phone, glasses, kindle, camera etc. all add up.
Lindsay wrote:I've just finished packing for a 2 night trip in the Blue Mountains starting tomorrow and my all up weight is 12.9kg. I am carrying 3 litres of water and 1kg of food, which leaves my base weight at 8.9kg. Even using a lightweight pack, tent, mattress and minimal clothing I don't see a lot of room to reduce this weight much further. Things like the PLB, GPS, notebook and pen, small plastic bag with credit card and cash, phone, glasses, kindle, camera etc. all add up.
Lindsay wrote:I've just finished packing for a 2 night trip in the Blue Mountains starting tomorrow and my all up weight is 12.9kg. I am carrying 3 litres of water and 1kg of food, which leaves my base weight at 8.9kg. Even using a lightweight pack, tent, mattress and minimal clothing I don't see a lot of room to reduce this weight much further. Things like the PLB, GPS, notebook and pen, small plastic bag with credit card and cash, phone, glasses, kindle, camera etc. all add up.
Strider wrote:I don't include my PLB in my baseweight. Removes the temptation to leave it behind.
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