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Re: Headlamp

Postby forest » Wed 23 Apr, 2014 11:24 am

stry wrote:For all round use, I prefer the H51F. Also quite OK for walking at night. I prefer the H51 for walking at night. For running, I would expect the standard H51 to be better.


I'd counter that stry, well the running comment anyway. I agree on the rest. I have a handfull of ZL's now, Yes I'm a junkie when it comes to them. Latest order I'm waiting on is a SC62D.

My all time favourite running light is my H600FW MKII, seconded by my H52FW when I don't need quite as much punch and shorter run time.
The regular beams with the hot spot IMO is aweful to run with. Your eyes just focus on that darn center hot spot and you loose a little prospective in the floody edges.
As opposed to the floody "F" beams which still light up the trails well but with no hot spot as such it's just a nicer beam to run behind.

In a recent NZ trail race I had quite a few people ask me what my light was during the dark early start section. I'd toddle up behind many a runner who had a LED Lenser / petzl type light in a cool white hot spot bouncing around. They'd see this nice warm, floody colour sidle up next to them and most had some type of comment. Set to H2, 313LM for a 4 hour run time is pretty nice.

For walking it's a little different, My H31 get's most use for that as it's smaller/lighter and has decent throw if required.
I just love the low settings you get with ZL's for camp use.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby shurik » Wed 23 Apr, 2014 2:57 pm

Ok now I'm more clear on this, thank you!
Have read a few other forums where they mention that you can cover the lens with a tape or something to make it more floody, that way get the non-F flash light. I am hoping to just get 1 light to use, this is why this "solution" would best suit me.

Apart from that, so many versions and they all look the same, apart from size/flood. I might have to print all the specs out for each one and compare side by side. But if someone can point out a light that would suit the following needs - would be perfect.

Camping, some hiking
Long range viewing (see who is in bush, possibly hunting)
Short range (I guess I can cover the lens for that?)
Not much running/bike riding (very occasional)

I realise there is no one-fits-all option, but the flash lights I used in the past were cheap Anaconda lights, so I won't notice the tiny difference in light diffusion that some of you might.

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Re: Headlamp

Postby Strider » Wed 23 Apr, 2014 7:16 pm

With the above in mind I would get a H52
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Re: Headlamp

Postby shurik » Thu 24 Apr, 2014 10:06 am

icefest wrote:
shurik wrote:Hey guys, have a read of this thread and thinking of getting the zebralight.
One thing I dont understand, one their website they have 2 similar models, H52 and H52F. Which one is the newer/better model? Or are they good in their own ways?
Basically, if I buy it - might as well get the latest/best version.

Also, how are these for trekking/running? Is the headband ok? I've read somewhere that it can get shaky. Lastly, how is it in rain, can it get damaged or is water resistant?

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This might help:
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From: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/sho ... convention


All are water resistant:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/sho ... -standards


Hey ok, I now understand the table and it makes sense. Thank you :-)
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Re: Headlamp

Postby shurik » Mon 28 Apr, 2014 1:43 pm

Hi all,

Anyone knows where I can actually purchase the H52 from? Amazon doesn't seem to have any and ebay has the flood version. Their website direct says it's a backorder and the only Australian distributor they told me to use has them Sold out. I'm located in Sydney, any other places you maybe got it from for yourself?

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Re: Headlamp

Postby GPSGuided » Mon 28 Apr, 2014 2:23 pm

zebralight.com

Buy directly from their site.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby icefest » Mon 28 Apr, 2014 2:37 pm

GPSGuided wrote:zebralight.com

Buy directly from their site.

My emphasis added:
shurik wrote:Their website direct says it's a backorder and the only Australian distributor they told me to use has them Sold out.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby shurik » Mon 28 Apr, 2014 3:20 pm

Yep, on backorder from them direct.
I wrote them an email to find out when it's coming back in stock, just thought maybe someone knows other distributors.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby shurik » Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:14 am

Ok, got a reply from them:

The current lead time for the H52 is about 3 weeks (if you place your order now). No plans for any updates for the H52 series.


Will go and place that order I guess :-)
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Re: Headlamp

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 29 Apr, 2014 10:27 am

Been browsing some of the sales just recently. I wondered what benefits do those bigger headlamp units eg. Petzl's MYO RXP offer compared to one of the narrow beam ZL models? At 140 lumen, even a H52 can beat it at regular 184 lumen. Apart from the 3 vs 1 AA battery and longer run time.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby shurik » Mon 12 May, 2014 3:36 pm

So, got my H52 headlamp delivered, pretty fast actually.
The one I received looks different from the picture on their website, has ribbed sides. Here is a photo of it.
http://i60.tinypic.com/a0xp1w.jpg

Thought that maybe they sent me the wrong light, as it looks like one of their other headlamps there. Sent them a message, got a reply (this time it consisted of more than 1 word, they are not much on words) :-)

    We revised the body style a little bit, nothing else has been changed.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby GPSGuided » Mon 12 May, 2014 3:47 pm

Wow, that's no small change in body style!
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Re: Headlamp

Postby Strider » Mon 12 May, 2014 7:01 pm

Where do the headband loops contact now?
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Re: Headlamp

Postby shurik » Wed 14 May, 2014 11:20 am

Yeah, not a small change.
Here is what it looks like with the strap on.

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Re: Headlamp

Postby Strider » Wed 14 May, 2014 5:20 pm

Interesting!
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Re: Headlamp

Postby forest » Wed 14 May, 2014 7:11 pm

Looks like a mini H600 now.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby GPSGuided » Wed 14 May, 2014 8:02 pm

What's the weight change?
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Re: Headlamp

Postby ULWalkingPhil » Thu 15 May, 2014 6:32 am

It might give better cooling

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Re: Headlamp

Postby GPSGuided » Thu 15 May, 2014 8:01 am

Good consideration. 20% increase in surface area? Do the older designs have a heat issue? Or for grip? More expensive to manufacture.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby Bubbalouie » Fri 16 May, 2014 7:31 pm

GPSGuided wrote:Good consideration. 20% increase in surface area? Do the older designs have a heat issue? Or for grip? More expensive to manufacture.


Hard to say as the junction isn't something I can touch, mine gets quite warm (the whole body) at max output.

LED's are more efficient at lower temps IIRC though so if it keeps things a few degrees cooler even if there weren't "issues" it could help improve performance.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby corvus » Fri 16 May, 2014 9:32 pm

As an aside I have a couple of Ultrafire units one a Cree 5 torch and the other a UF-H2B (torch headlight) strange thing is the eneloop batteries work to dead in the cree5 yet will not register in the H2B
if low ??
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Re: Headlamp

Postby GPSGuided » Fri 16 May, 2014 9:49 pm

Regulated vs unregulated?
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Re: Headlamp

Postby corvus » Fri 16 May, 2014 10:00 pm

GPSGuided wrote:Regulated vs unregulated?

That tells me a lot :roll:
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Re: Headlamp

Postby ULWalkingPhil » Tue 20 May, 2014 10:50 am

I showed some bike riders my H600 Floody the other night, they where all bragging how great there $200.00 lights are on there bikes, till I turned on my H600. :D Than I told them what I paid for it, they almost fell of there bikes.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby ULWalkingPhil » Tue 20 May, 2014 10:52 am

GPSGuided wrote:Good consideration. 20% increase in surface area? Do the older designs have a heat issue? Or for grip? More expensive to manufacture.


I can vouch mine get's very hot when it's been on for a while at maximum.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 20 May, 2014 11:06 am

ULWalkingPhil wrote:I showed some bike riders my H600 Floody... Than I told them what I paid for it, they almost fell of there bikes.

You are being evil there! ROTFL
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Re: Headlamp

Postby ULWalkingPhil » Tue 20 May, 2014 4:02 pm

GPSGuided wrote:
ULWalkingPhil wrote:I showed some bike riders my H600 Floody... Than I told them what I paid for it, they almost fell of there bikes.

You are being evil there! ROTFL


Funny thing one of them flashed there light at me, showing me how bright there $200.00 light was, I hardly squinted, This is before I turned mine on. I said, that's not a light, Check this out, switched it on max and boom lit up the whole road, :lol: I dare not shine it in his eyes like he did with me, I think I would have blinded him.

His remark was holly *&%$#!. *&%$#! me.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby GPSGuided » Tue 20 May, 2014 4:40 pm

Being a cyclist and knowing how bike lighting is discussed on those forums - Yes, it would have been so funny.
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Re: Headlamp

Postby kyubi » Tue 20 May, 2014 5:22 pm

ULWalkingPhil wrote:
GPSGuided wrote:
ULWalkingPhil wrote:I showed some bike riders my H600 Floody... Than I told them what I paid for it, they almost fell of there bikes.

You are being evil there! ROTFL


Funny thing one of them flashed there light at me, showing me how bright there $200.00 light was, I hardly squinted, This is before I turned mine on. I said, that's not a light, Check this out, switched it on max and boom lit up the whole road, :lol: I dare not shine it in his eyes like he did with me, I think I would have blinded him.

His remark was holly *&%$#!. *&%$#! me.


Were these roadies Phil? Because me and my Mountain biking buddies are pumping out a minimum of 1000lm (some up to 2500lm+). If you're head torch is brighter than that I'd be interested in one too!

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Re: Headlamp

Postby Ellobuddha » Tue 20 May, 2014 5:23 pm

Can anyone one with a 600/602 recommend a battery brand and source. Seems to be a lot of choices.

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