The Shires are still friends of mine so no problem there.
Years ago there were a lot of problems getting the curves needed in the Scarp from DCF (because it does not stretch the way silnylon does) but as you can see with the Moment DW Li some very clever use of the DCF charateristics has made those possible.
HS has a very high end CAD 3D programme that can work out how different fabrics will behave under different tensions/ cuts/shapes and so on so maybe a DCF "plug in" has happened.
(HS graduated in physiscs from the Stanford University , became a tent designer by accident (his PCT tru-hike))
There is another fabric waiting for something to happen , apart from silpoly, so not sure right now what will the future of the Scarp will be but I'll ask...
BTW.... The Scarp came about because Henry needed a 4 season tent for himself. Took a few years to design that and we had a lot of back and forth discussions about details. Eventualy Henry came up with the PitchLoc corner (his name for it...) that gave the Scarp the structual integrity it has.Not to put a fine point but the idea was to get something that worked better than the single strut the Hilleberg Akto uses. ( you can put a LOT mor tension on the PitchLoc than on the Akto type and pull more than one panel in tension at the same time. (I used to borrow tents from the shops in Little Bourke St/Melbourne at the time to test things out and suggest improvements over existing designs ...) The original temp name for the Scarp was Iceland (that was the reason it was made for...) before eventualy HS came up with a name for it but at the start it was not meant to be a retail item because it isn't a "Tarptent"...
The downside of those struts is of course that they take up room when packed.
I posted the above to point out that there is a bit more to Tarptent than some seem to think.
To add... removable struts. That is an option with some TT shelters but it may not be a viable thing to do for the factory in China . They want to make hundreds of tents in a single one/two day run so some fiddly things that the Seattle factory could accomodate can't be replicated in China. The same fatory makes a lot of the well known retail brands. They also have a less high tec factory in Vietnam with lower labour rates (that is a hint ...).
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